Powerful fans on boat, blow to own sails, would this move the boat?

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The discussion centers on the effectiveness of using powerful fans mounted on a sailboat to generate movement when there is no natural wind. It concludes that while the fans can create airflow, they do not propel the boat in the same manner as wind does. Specifically, when the fans blow air horizontally (0 degrees), the boat does not move, whereas at a 45-degree angle, there is some negligible movement due to the deflection of air by the sails. The discussion emphasizes that using the fans alone, without sails, would be more effective for propulsion.

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A sail boat got stuck because there is absolutely no wind. The boat happens to have some powerful fans. Which are then bolted on deck and blow to the sails.

Would that make the boat move?
  1. When the artificial wind direction is horizontal (0 degree)
  2. When the wind direction is 45 degrees.
Would appreciate some explanation because I am not sure about the answers. I think Q1 will not move the boat. Q2 will move it, but in negligible proportions.
 
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Trikenstein said:
Would that make the boat move?
Yes, but not in the way the wind does.
Air drawn into the fan, will mostly pull the boat that way.
The sail will deflect the blown air, and so will push the boat away somewhat, but also along.

To go faster, take the sail down.
 
There are several demonstrations of this experiment with variations, e.g., here.
 
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Hill said:
There are several demonstrations of this experiment with variations, e.g., here.
Thanks for the video suggestion. Now I see the importance of the curve shape of the sail. There has to be something pushing the air backward.

In my thought experiment, I simplified the problem as a person standing on the deck, pushing on the mat with a stick. Obviously the system is in equilibrium within the boat itself and would not move the boat. Kind of demonstrated in the video when the sail is perfectly flat.
 
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Trikenstein said:
Kind of demonstrated in the video when the sail is perfectly flat.
With a flat sail you would want to blow at it from the side, at an acute angle of attack, while it is oriented to divert the air backwards. But as already said, you would be much better off using just the fan, blowing air backwards.
 
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A sail boat got stuck because there is absolutely no wind. The boat happens to have some powerful fans. Which are then bolted on deck and blow to the sails.
Airboat go fast:
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Airboat with parachute pulled behind it go slow/zero... :wink:
 
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