Precipitation of colloidal solutions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the precipitation of colloidal solutions, specifically focusing on emulsoids and the role of charged ions in their aggregation. Participants seek to clarify the concept of charge neutralization and its implications for colloidal stability and precipitation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about a statement from a chemistry book regarding emulsoids and their precipitation by NaCl, particularly the phrase "neutralize the charges."
  • Another participant explains that colloidal molecules have slightly charged surfaces, and electrostatic repulsion prevents them from aggregating.
  • There is speculation about the role of osmotic pressure and how small ions from NaCl might interact with colloidal molecules.
  • Participants discuss the idea that small charged ions could be attracted to colloidal molecules, potentially leading to aggregation if repelling charges are neutralized.
  • A later reply seeks to define "neutralization" in the context of colloidal solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the role of charge neutralization in facilitating aggregation of colloidal molecules, but there is uncertainty regarding the specific mechanisms and the relevance of osmotic pressure.

Contextual Notes

Participants express limitations in their understanding of the relationship between osmotic pressure and colloidal stability, as well as the definition of charge neutralization in this context.

Asmaa Mohammad
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Hello,
I read about the colloidal solutions in my chemistry book, and came across this sentence:

"Emulsoids (a type of colloidal solutions) are difficult to be precipitated, e.g. by concentrated solution of NaCl (removes H2O film by its osmotic power then it neutralize the charges)."

I don't understand the sentence and the book doesn't give a further explanation.

So I would appreciate if some one would explain it for me, and especially the "neutralize the charges" part.

Thanks in advance!
 
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Colloidal molecules have slightly charged surface, and the electrostatic repulsion keeps them afloat (you can't precipitate them if they won't combine into larger aggregates). No idea why they call for osmotic pressure, but imagine adding small ions to the solution (like those from the NaCl dissociation). What will they do?
 
Borek said:
but imagine adding small ions to the solution (like those from the NaCl dissociation). What will they do?
Hmm .. the small charged ions would be attracted to the colloidal molecules. And they will try to attach colloidal molecules to each other forming an aggregate, right?

Borek said:
No idea why they call for osmotic pressure
I have no idea too.

perhaps it is something related to the fact that water particles form a thin film surrounding the solute particles. But I can't go any further.
 
Asmaa Mohammad said:
Hmm .. the small charged ions would be attracted to the colloidal molecules. And they will try to attach colloidal molecules to each other forming an aggregate, right?

Yes, once the repelling charges are neutralized aggregation becomes much easier.
 
Borek said:
Yes, once the repelling charges are neutralized aggregation becomes much easier.
Then If I want to define "neutralization" in this case, How would it be?
 
Proton has a positive charge, electron has a negative charge, hydrogen atom is neutral.
 

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