Precise Definition of the Limit for f(x)=0

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The discussion revolves around the precise definition of the limit in the context of the function f(x) = 0. The original poster seeks to prove that the limit of f(x) as x approaches a is 0, while grappling with the implications of the definition.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the precise definition of the limit but expresses confusion regarding the condition 0 < |f(x) - 0| < ε, questioning its validity since f(x) is always 0. Some participants suggest that the definition may have been misquoted and offer alternative functions to explore the concept further.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing clarifications and alternative perspectives. There is acknowledgment of potential misunderstandings in the definition being used, and some participants suggest examining simpler functions to gain better insight into the limit concept.

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Participants note that the original definition may contain errors, specifically regarding the condition involving |f(x) - 0|. This highlights a potential misunderstanding in the application of the limit definition.

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Suppose f(x) = 0. Prove, using the precise definition of the limit, that

[tex] \begin{equation*}<br /> \lim_{x\to a} f(x) = 0<br /> \end{equation*}[/tex]

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I just learned the precise definition of the limit today, and I thought of this example and I couldn't really figure it out. As I understand it, we want to find

[tex] 0<|x-a|<\delta\\<br /> \implies 0<|f(x)-0|<\varepsilon[/tex]

What I don't get is, does it make sense to say that we're looking for epsilon such that 0 is LESS THAN |f(x)-0| is less than epsilon? If f(x) never deviates from 0 anyway, then f(x) will always be less than epsilon. But isn't |f(x)-L| = |f(x)-0| = |f(x)| always EQUAL to zero?

I'm also still not entirely sure I understand the concept.
 
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I've never seen the 0<|f(x)-0| portion included in the definition of a limit before. Wherever you got the definition from has a type in it, just ignore that part
 
This is a very simple example but you can still carry the formalism through. If you are just doing this for your own benefit, it might be more instructive to look at the functions f(x) = x, g(x) = 2x and h(x) = x2 and prove the limit is 0 at 0. Then go back and look at this one. These ones have enough meat on them to give you some traction.

And what Office Shredder said is true as well. I've seen =< but that is implicit anyways.
 
Office_Shredder said:
I've never seen the 0<|f(x)-0| portion included in the definition of a limit before. Wherever you got the definition from has a type in it, just ignore that part

Oh okay, I think I may have copied it down wrong then. Thanks for clearing that up.
 
For this problem, the 0 < |f(x) - 0| part is incorrect, since f(x) is identically zero.
 

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