Predicting solubility of ionic compounds in ionic liquids

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The discussion centers on predicting the solubility of ionic compounds like KCl and NaBr in ionic liquids such as 1-ethyl-3-methylimidazolium tetrafluoroborate. It acknowledges the complexity of this process due to the unique properties of ionic liquids, including their low melting temperatures and the intricate ionic interactions that occur during dissolution. While there is emerging data on gases dissolved in ionic liquids that could help assess computational models, the conversation highlights a lack of straightforward guidelines for maximizing solubility. The role of ionic liquids in "greening" synthetic chemistry and their applications in lanthanide and actinide chemistry are noted as areas of interest, although no simple rules for solubility prediction are provided. The need for more experienced insights into this topic is expressed, along with an offer to share relevant citations if needed.
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This question probably belittles the complexity of the issue, but I thought I'd ask anyway:

Are there any reasonable methods by which the solubility of ionic compounds (e.g., KCl, NaBr, CaO, etc.) in ionic liquids (e.g., 1-ethyl-3-methylimidazolium tetrafluoroborate, tetrabutylammonium bromide) can be predicted? For example, if I wanted to maximize the concentration of dissolved KCl, I'd like to have some guidelines to follow by which I can select the most appropriate ionic liquid.

Given that the ionic liquids can display such low melting temperatures due to the asymmetry and conformational flexibility of its constituent ions, I'd guess that the dissolution and dissociation of solid ionic compounds would be a complex process with difficult-to-predict ionic mixing/coordination in the liquid.
 
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I recall this mention of there finally being enough data for gases dissolved in ionic liquids (ILs) to establish a "test set" to assess computational models the other year. Most of what I have seen in terms of rationalizing the solubility characteristics of ILs are in relation to its role in "greening" up synthetic chemistry and its applications (mixtures with organic solvents; various common synthetic starting materials and products/intermediates; and so on). Weirdly, I do recall interest in ILs with regard to lanthanide and actinide chemistry (including environmental applications), which is probably the closest to your inquiry about ionic compounds in ionic liquids. I am fairly certain it was not at the pithy "here are a few rules to remember" level, though.

I've never worked with ILs in any substantive manner, so hopefully someone more experienced will come around on this topic. Also, if you want me to run down my partially jogged memory for citations for the above, let me know.
 
Mike H said:
I recall this mention of there finally being enough data for gases dissolved in ionic liquids (ILs) to establish a "test set" to assess computational models the other year. Most of what I have seen in terms of rationalizing the solubility characteristics of ILs are in relation to its role in "greening" up synthetic chemistry and its applications (mixtures with organic solvents; various common synthetic starting materials and products/intermediates; and so on). Weirdly, I do recall interest in ILs with regard to lanthanide and actinide chemistry (including environmental applications), which is probably the closest to your inquiry about ionic compounds in ionic liquids. I am fairly certain it was not at the pithy "here are a few rules to remember" level, though.

I've never worked with ILs in any substantive manner, so hopefully someone more experienced will come around on this topic. Also, if you want me to run down my partially jogged memory for citations for the above, let me know.

Thanks Mike. Your suggestion regarding actinide/lanthanide chemistry in ionic liquids has turned up some interesting results!
 
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