Predicting the Density of Concrete

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The discussion revolves around understanding the density of concrete, particularly how lighter component materials combine to form a denser final product. It includes inquiries about the impact of adding steel to the aggregate mix and seeks methods for estimating the resulting density of the concrete mixture.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Ian questions how lighter materials like water, cement, aggregate, and sand can combine to create a denser material such as concrete.
  • Another participant notes that the quoted densities of the components may include air, which affects the overall density of concrete when mixed.
  • This participant suggests that Ian could use the known density of concrete (2400 kg/m^3) to calculate the density of a mixture of concrete and steel, assuming he knows the volumes involved.
  • Ian expresses gratitude for the clarification and indicates that the explanation has helped him understand the calculations better.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to agree on the importance of understanding the role of air in the densities of the component materials, but the discussion does not resolve whether Ian's approach to calculating the density with steel is the only or best method.

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The discussion does not address specific assumptions regarding the proportions of the materials or the exact method for calculating the final density with steel included.

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Hello Everyone,

I have a problem which is flummoxing me concerning concrete!

The density of concrete is approx. 2400 kg/m^3 (depending on mix) however the component parts which make up concrete are as follows:

Water (density 998 kg/m^3)
Cement (density 1506 kg/m^3)
Aggregate (density 1602 kg/m^3)
Sand (density 1600 kg/m^3)

My question is how do all of these relatively light materials combine to form a relatively dense material like concrete?

The reason for my question is that I wish to use some steel in the aggregate mix and thus increase the density of the aggregate but I cannot calculate what density of concrete this will produce without understanding the above.

Any help and/or simple estimate formulas would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks a lot in advance,

Ian
 
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The densities you are quoting (except for the water) contain a significant quantity of air. For example,the density of quartz is about 2650 kg/m^3, and the reason sand is so much less is that it is a mixture of quartz particles and air. The same for the aggregate - typical rock densities are 2000-3000 kg/m^3. When you mix these materials to create concrete, the air is removed, so you get a density closer to the bulk materials without the air. For your problem, why don't you just accept the final concrete density of 2400 kg/m^3, and calculate the density of a mixture of concrete and steel? Presumably you know the volumes of concrete and steel in the final product.
 
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Hi phyzguy,

Thanks very much for the response! I think you've cracked the problem and it now makes sense. The calculations I'm coming out with are now making much more sense.

It's obvious when you know how!

Cheers,

Ian
 
Glad I could help. Good luck with you project.
 

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