Prefactor in Canonical Quantization of Scalar Field

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The discussion focuses on the differences in prefactor choices in the canonical quantization of scalar fields as presented in various quantum field theory texts, specifically comparing Srednicki and Peskin's approaches. The scope includes theoretical considerations and technical details related to normalization in quantum field theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes a discrepancy in prefactors between Peskin's and Srednicki's books, highlighting the implications for time derivatives of the field.
  • Another participant suggests that the commutators of creation and annihilation operators should differ, which may lead to consistent commutators between the field and its time derivative.
  • A participant points out that different normalizations for the creation and annihilation operators are used in different texts.
  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the normalization in Itzykson's QFT book, suggesting that using Peskin's normalization could affect the evaluation of integrals due to the energy term not canceling out.
  • Another participant argues that the choice of prefactor depends on the desired properties of the creation and annihilation operators, noting that different factors lead to different forms of Lorentz invariance in the mode decomposition.

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Participants express differing views on the appropriate choice of prefactors and their implications for the quantization process. There is no consensus on which normalization is superior or more correct.

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Participants reference specific equations from various texts, indicating that their arguments depend on the definitions and normalizations chosen in those contexts. The discussion reveals that the choice of prefactor can influence the mathematical treatment of the scalar field and its derivatives.

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Hey all,
I am encountering an issue reconciling the choice of prefactors in the canonical quantization of the scalar field between Srednicki and Peskin's books. In Peskin's book (see equation (2.47)), there is a prefactor of ##\frac{1}{\sqrt{2E_{p}}}## whereas in Srednicki's book (see equation (3.18) and (3.19)), there is a prefactor of ##\frac{1}{2\omega}##. What concerns me is that if we take the derivative with respect to time of the field, then in Peskin's case, we are left with a ##\sqrt{E_{p}}## factor whereas in Srednicki's book, the ##\frac{1}{\omega}## prefactor completely disappears, so I fail to see how these 2 definitions can be equivalent.
Thanks.
 
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Compare also the commutators of creation/destruction operators, they should be different too, so that at the end the commutators between the field and its time derivative are the same.
 
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Yes, different books uses different normalizations for the ##\hat a## and ##\hat a^\dagger##
 
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Great, thanks a lot. My confusion initially came from when I was looking through Itzykson's QFT book and came upon this discussion on pg. 521:
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Specifically, looking at how the scalar field is quantized in equation (11.39), it seems to me that if we used Peskin's definition of normalization, then the energy term wouldn't cancel out after we take the derivative with respect to time and thus we couldn't evaluate the integral in equation (11.41) right (since the energy term is also necessarily a function of the spatial coordinates of momentum).
 
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It depends, at which place you want to have it convenient. If you want the creation and annihilation operators to create momentum eigenstates normalized to 1, you need the ##1/\sqrt{2 E_{\vec{p}}}## factors in the mode decomposition. If you want manifestly covariant integrals in the mode decomposition you need the ##1/(2 E_{\vec{p}})## factors. That's because ##\mathrm{d}^2 p/(2 E_{\vec{p}})## is mainfestly Lorentz invariant.

The correct factor of the field is of course always uniquely defined by the equal-time (anti-)commutator relations,
$$[\hat{\Phi}(t,\vec{x}),\hat{\Pi}(t,\vec{y})]=\mathrm{i} \delta^{(3)}(\vec{x}-\vec{y}).$$
 
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