Preparing for Classical Mechanics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around preparation strategies for a classical mechanics course, particularly for students with varying backgrounds in physics and mathematics. Participants share their experiences with different textbooks and resources, as well as their approaches to mastering the subject matter.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about their preparedness for classical mechanics, citing a challenging homework problem as an example.
  • Suggestions for preparatory reading include K&K's introduction to mechanics, Marion and Thornton, and Hand and Finch, with mixed opinions on the quality of these texts.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of practicing problems and understanding mechanical systems intuitively, recommending a good introductory physics book for foundational practice.
  • Some participants criticize Marion and Thornton for lack of clarity and suggest alternatives like Taylor's classical mechanics, which is described as more accessible and thorough.
  • Personal anecdotes highlight the use of various textbooks, including Arya's text and Landau, with a consensus that Taylor's book is a favorable resource for understanding classical mechanics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the effectiveness of specific textbooks, with no consensus on a single best resource. There is general agreement on the importance of problem-solving practice, but the preferred methods and materials vary among participants.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention being rusty on certain mathematical techniques, which may affect their preparation. The discussion does not resolve the best approach to preparing for classical mechanics, leaving various strategies open for consideration.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students preparing for classical mechanics courses, particularly those seeking recommendations on textbooks and study strategies, as well as insights into common challenges faced in the subject.

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I'm an EE student and I am going to take modern physics next semester, and then would like to take classical mechanics. I was enrolled for about a half week in a classical mechanics class but it seemed really hardcore and I wasn't prepared for it. (The first homework problem was: Describe the motion of a perfectly flexible cable that falls off a table, what?)

My question is how to best prepare for this class? My previous classes in mechanics haven't been very good.

Should I read K&K's introduction to mechanics? Should I try to get through Classical Dynamics by Marion and Thornton by myself?

My preparation in mathematics should be good enough, I have taken Linear Algebra, Diff eq, Calc 3. Although I am a bit rusty on trig substitutions and performing the integrals.
 
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Marion and Thornton is kind of crappy. I've never done K&K. If you can find Hand and Finch, that is my favorite.
 
If you're confident in math, you should practice as many problems as possible. If you're having trouble understanding the mechanical systems being described in the question, or hard time imagining what will happen to the system intuitively, or don't know how to start the problem by setting up coordinate system and reference frame and such, then I suggest get a good intro physics book and start solving problem there as many as possible.

In classical mechanics class, you will see many of the same problems that you encounter in intro courses but only with much rigor or different formulation of mechanics.

I agree with above comment: In my opinion, M&T doesn't explain much of what they do and why they do it.

If you're don't want to go back and solve intro physics problems but must start by reading upper level course textbook I strongly suggest Taylor's classical mechanics. His book is twice thicker than M&T but he's friendly approach reminds me of Griffith's EM. This book is almost like a spoon fed. It will explain almost every step it takes.
 
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when i was taking classical mechanics, we were assigned M&T. Naturally, everyone hated that book and you would see practically everyone with some different book. I found an old copy of Arya's text in my school library and used that. Later in the course, once lagrangians are came into play, i used landau. Now whenever i need to look something up, i simply read taylor, so out of all these books, id say you can't lose with taylor.
 

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