Pressure Equalization at Nozzle Exit: Why We Need It

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the necessity of equalizing pressure at the exit of a nozzle with the surrounding atmospheric pressure, particularly in the context of rocket propulsion and nozzle efficiency. Participants explore theoretical and practical implications of pressure conditions at various altitudes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the need for the exit pressure of a nozzle to match ambient pressure, suggesting that achieving ambient pressure can lead to peak efficiency in rocket operation.
  • Another participant notes that while equal pressure is optimal, it is not sustainable due to varying atmospheric pressure with altitude, which complicates nozzle design for efficiency at different altitudes.
  • A participant raises a concern about designing nozzles for lower than atmospheric pressure at high altitudes, questioning how such designs would function at sea level without external gases flowing into the nozzle.
  • There is mention of the P*A component of thrust being only part of the thrust equation, with mass flow being a significant contributor, indicating a need for a broader understanding of thrust dynamics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and implications of matching nozzle exit pressure to ambient pressure, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the impact of altitude on atmospheric pressure and nozzle design, highlighting the complexity of achieving optimal performance across varying conditions. There are also references to external resources for further exploration of the topic.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying rocket propulsion, nozzle design, and the effects of atmospheric conditions on thrust efficiency.

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why do we need the pressure at the exit of nozzle to be equal to that of the outside pressure?
 
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Not something that I'm terribly familiar with, but you don't need it to be so. If I understand the question correctly, having the exhaust exit at ambient pressure means that the motor is operating at peak efficiency. All of the overpressure has been expended within the rocket in order to push it forward. If the exhaust is at higher than ambient pressure, it means that some of that excess pressure is being wasted.
Best wait for Fred or someone to weigh in, because I'm not sure that I answered properly.
 
Like Danger mentioned, the equal pressure is the optimum condition for the nozzle. However, it doesn't last since atmospheric pressure changes with altitude but the nozzle geometry does not change. So the designers have to choose where they want the nozzle to operate at it's max efficiency, either low or high altitudes.

This page does a nice job of explaining things.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/propulsion/q0220.shtml
 
So, Fred, now that the subject has arisen... just how effective is the linear aerospike? Has one ever flown other than bolted onto an SR-71? It looks like a superb idea.
Great link, by the bye.
 
It hasn't flown to my knowledge.
 
Keeping to my quesion, one more doubt has arisen. First of all i understand what you wanted to convey. But the problem is if we design it to work by giving output at lower than atmospheric pressure to work at higher altitudes, then how would it be possible for it to work at the sea level. Won't the external gases flow into the nozzle?
 

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