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The discussion centers on proving that for a group G of order p^m, where p is a prime number, there exists an element a in G such that the order of a is p. The participant utilizes Lagrange's Theorem to establish that the order of any subgroup divides the order of the group, leading to the conclusion that there must be an element of order p. The conversation also touches on alternative proof methods that do not rely on Lagrange's Theorem, indicating a desire for a deeper understanding of the topic.

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1. Homework Statement .
Let p be a prime number, m a natural number and G a group of order p^m. Prove that there exists an element a in G such that ord(a)=p.

3. The Attempt at a Solution .
I know of the existence of Lagrange theorem, so what I thought was: I pick an arbitrary element a (I exclude e, the identity element) of G and look at the group generated by that element, denoted as <a>. I also know that the order of <a> is equal to the order of the element a. Now I can apply Lagrange theorem: as the order of <a> divides the order of G, then the order of <a> must be of the form p^k for some natural number k, k≤m. I got stuck here, I can't deduce k=1 with only these statements, there is something missing.
 
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So if a has order p^k then which power of a has order p?
 
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If the cyclic group generated by an element is always a subgroup, and if the order of that subgroup always divides the order of the group, then the claim will go through if there is always an element of order > 1. But on two sites I found, much more complicated proofs are given, induction on k with separate handling of the abelian/non-abelian cases. It could just be that they are written so as not to use Lagrange's Theorem.
 
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Axiomer said:
So if a has order p^k then which power of a has order p?

I got it, but just in case I want to check: Is it p^(k-1)?, because then (a^p^(k-1))^p=a^(pp^(k-1))=a^p^k=1
 
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verty said:
If the cyclic group generated by an element is always a subgroup, and if the order of that subgroup always divides the order of the group, then the claim will go through if there is always an element of order > 1. But on two sites I found, much more complicated proofs are given, induction on k with separate handling of the abelian/non-abelian cases. It could just be that they are written so as not to use Lagrange's Theorem.

Maybe there is other way of proving this statement without using Lagrange's theorem, but, if you want to, check what Axiomer wrote and then the proof is completed using Lagrange's theorem. Anyway, I'll ask my professor to show me an alternative proof. Thanks.
 
mahler1 said:
I got it, but just in case I want to check: Is it p^(k-1)?, because then (a^p^(k-1))^p=a^(pp^(k-1))=a^p^k=1

Yep!
 
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