Probability and Statistic on Infinite-Dimensional spaces

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The discussion revolves around the application of probability and statistics in infinite-dimensional spaces, exploring whether existing theories can be generalized to accommodate phenomena involving an infinite number of random variables or random functions. Participants also consider the implications of Monte Carlo integration in this context.

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  • One participant questions if probability and statistics can be generalized to infinite-dimensional spaces, particularly regarding random functions and the definition of probabilistic moments.
  • Another participant asserts that if a probability measure can be established, statistics can be applied without the need for generalization.
  • A different viewpoint highlights the challenge of finding an infinite-dimensional measure, referencing the unsolved problems related to probabilistic measures in the context of Feynman Path Integrals.
  • In response, a participant argues that standard measures exist on Hilbert and Banach spaces, challenging the assertion that infinite-dimensional measures cannot be found.
  • Another participant expresses that while there may not be a theoretical issue with infinite product measures, practical challenges arise due to the nature of interesting sets having infinite or zero measure.

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Participants express differing views on the existence and applicability of infinite-dimensional measures, leading to a lack of consensus on the feasibility of applying probability and statistics in such contexts.

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Participants note the complexities involved in defining measures in infinite-dimensional spaces and the implications for probabilistic phenomena, indicating that certain assumptions and definitions may be critical to the discussion.

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Probability and Statistic on "Infinite-Dimensional" spaces

Hello..can the theories of Probability and Statistic be generalized to "Infinite-dimensional" spaces?..i mean if there are "probabilistic" phenomenon that include an infinite number of random variables, or include "random functions" instead of random numbers, or if you can define the probabilistic n-th "momentum" of a distribution in the sense of the functional integral:

[tex]\int D[\phi ]\phi^{n} P[\phi]= < \phi ^{n} >[/tex]

By the way..if Montecarlo integration does not depend on the dimensionality of space.. why can't you perform infinite dimensional integrals...? simply in the form:

[tex]\int D[\phi ]\phi^{n} P[\phi]= \sum_{i} P[ \phi _i ] \phi_{i}^{n} + \sum_{r}a(r) \delta ^{r}\phi^{n} P[\phi][/tex]

Or something similar...
 
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If you can put a probability measure on it, you can do statistics. No need to "generalize".
 
The problem is that you can't find any "Infinite dimensional " meassure... unless perhaps that if you have a 1-dimensional meassure you take:

[tex]\sum_{i}^{\infty} \mu _{i}[/tex] [tex]\prod _{i}^{\infty} \mu _{i}[/tex]

sum or product of known meassures... the problem of "probabilistic meassures" for Feynman Path Integral is one of the unsolved problems in Theoretical Physics...
 
What do you mean 'you can't find any "infinite dimensional" measure'? There are standard measures on Hilbert and Banach spaces.
 
I don't see any theoretical problem with taking an infinite product measure. (that doesn't mean none exists...) There is a practical problem, though -- too many interesting sets have infinite measure, or zero measure. E.g. the measure of a cube is:

0 (if the side length is less than 1)
1 (if the side length equals 1)
+infinity (if the side length is greater than 1)
 

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