Probability Density Function problem

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a relation defined by the equation ##\frac{x}{x+y^2}-y=x##, with the goal of rearranging it to express ##y## as a function of ##x##, and subsequently transforming this function into a probability density function (PDF). The problem includes tasks related to calculating statistical properties of the PDF, such as mean, standard deviation, and median.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss attempts to rearrange the given equation for ##y##, with one noting difficulty in factorizing the resulting cubic equation. There is a suggestion to consider the formal solution for cubic equations. Some participants question the clarity of the problem statement, particularly regarding the domain and the properties of the PDF.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various methods to approach the problem. Some have provided insights into the challenges of factorization and the complexity of the cubic equation. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach, and multiple interpretations of the problem are being considered.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential errors in the problem statement, including the definition of the domain and the statistical properties attributed to the PDF. These points raise questions about the assumptions underlying the problem.

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Homework Statement


Presume the relation ##\frac{x}{x+y^2}-y=x## is defined over the domain ##[0,1]##.

(a) Rearrange this relation for ##y## and define it as a function, ##f(x)##.
(b) Function ##f(x)## is dilated by a factor of ##a## from the y-axis, transforming it into a probability density function, ##p(x)##. Find the value of ##a## correct to 4 decimal places.
(c) Determine the following correct to 3 decimal places:

I) The mean of ##p(x)##
II) The standard deviation of ##p(x)##
III) The median, ##m##, of ##p(x)##
(d) Calculate the probability of discrete random variable ##x## being within ##a## standard deviations either side of the mean.

Homework Equations


Knowledge of integration, probability density functions, and the rearranging and solving of equations.

The Attempt at a Solution


Starting with part ##(a)##, I attempted to rearrange ##\frac{x}{x+y^2}-y=x## for ##y##. I managed to express the equation in the form ##y^3+xy^2+xy+x^2-x=0## however this is where I become stuck. I'm unsure of how to factorise this equation for ##y## and my calculator simply returns an error message when I try and use it. Is there another way to do this that I'm missing or don't know about?

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Your calculations so far look correct. I don't think that formula can be factorised. A formula for the solution of the cubic in y could be written (see cubic solution formula here) but it would be very messy and I doubt that's what was intended.
Perhaps the question contains an error like a wrong sign, and the question it was supposed to be is factorisable where the one they actually wrote is not.

Where did you get the question? It has a number of other errors, such as
  • the statement that the relation is over the domain [0,1], which cannot be correct as there are two variables and [0,1] is only one-dimensional. Perhaps they meant to say [0,1] x [0,1].
  • the references to the mean, standard deviation and median of p(x) are meaningless, since those statistics are properties of random variables and p(x) is not a random variable. Perhaps they meant to say the random variable whose pdf is p.
 
There may be a simple way to factor it, but with a little effort in trying to factor it, I came up empty. Suggestion would be to do the formal solution of the cubic equation on it in order to determine the factors.
 
A follow-on: I worked through most of the formal solution of the cubic equation for this problem. Unless I made algebraic errors, it doesn't appear to simplify a great deal and you get complicated polynomials of powers of x from the 5th power to the second power (the 6th power term cancelled) inside of a square root sign. That part is the solution to a quadratic equation that you add an expression consisting of a 3rd power polynomial in x and then take a cube root of it. Finally, you would then do a similar computation to get the "s" term, (solving for s and t), y'=s-t, and then y=y'-x/3. This one does not appear to be simple.
 
Maybe you are not expected to get it into the form y=... Try proceeding to the next part, which involves computing ∫y.dx. Can you see a way to do that?
 

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