Probability of Credit Cards P(A|B')

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The discussion revolves around calculating the conditional probability P(A|M') in the context of credit card ownership, specifically focusing on individuals who do not have a Mastercard but may have an American Express card. Participants are exploring the relationships between different types of credit cards and their respective probabilities.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to calculate P(A ∩ M') and discussing the implications of a Venn diagram to visualize the relationships between card ownership. Questions arise about the given probabilities and how to derive the necessary values for the calculations.

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There is an active exploration of the problem with various approaches being suggested. Some participants have provided partial calculations and insights into the relationships between the probabilities, while others are questioning assumptions and seeking clarification on specific values needed for their calculations.

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Participants are working with specific probabilities related to credit card ownership, including the total number of individuals and the distribution of card types. There is mention of potential confusion regarding the total counts and the need to clarify the relationships between the different card ownerships.

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[tex]P(A | M^{'}) = \frac{P(A \cap M^{'})}{P(M^{'})}[/tex]

I know that,

[tex]P(M^{'}) = 1-0.48 = 0.52[/tex]

but I can't figure out how to obtain,

[tex]P(A \cap M^{'})[/tex]

Any ideas?
 

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but I can't figure out how to obtain,

P(A∩M′)
Isn't it given to you? Probability has a mastercard and an amex?
 
Simon Bridge said:
Isn't it given to you? Probability has a mastercard and an amex?

No, it's probability of NOT having a mastercard and having an amex. I'd suggest to jegues to draw a Venn diagram and start labelling regions.
 
Oh I see what you mean - did you construct the ven diagram?

##A## = has an amex
##M## = has a mastercard
##A\cap M## has a mastercard and an amex.

But assign an arbitrary number of people ... say 100.

48 have a mastercard (52 don't)
20 have an american express
11 have a mastercard and an amex

Thus, 37 people with a mastercard do not have an amex.
So the probability that someone with a mastercard does not have an amex is 37/48.

That's probably the quickest way to understand the problem ... you can rework it all in terms of conditional probabilities later. (To complete this diagram: how many people have neither an amex nor a master-card?)
 
Dick said:
No, it's probability of NOT having a mastercard and having an amex. I'd suggest to jegues to draw a Venn diagram and start labelling regions.

See figure attached for my attempt at drawing a Venn diagram.

I'm having some trouble finding the probability of not having a mastercard or a visa or a amex.(i.e. being outside of all 3 circles)

My attempt at this would be,

[tex]0.7 + (0.48-0.29) + (0.2 - (0.11 + 0.14 - 0.06)) = 0.9[/tex]

but that answer doesn't make any sense.

Can someone explain how to do this? Do I need to do this to get closer to finding my answer?

EDIT: After thinking about it more,

[tex]P(A \cap M^{'}) = 0.2-0.11 = 0.09 \quad \quad P(M^{'}) = 0.52[/tex]

[tex]P(A|M^{'}) = \frac{0.09}{0.52} = 0.17307[/tex]
 

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You only need two circles like I said: see post #4.
I think that's as close as I can get to telling you how to do it without doing the problem for you.

If there are 100 people all together:
1. How many people, in total, have an amex? (given)
2. How many of the people who have an amex also have a mastercard? (given)
3. How many people who have an amex don't have a mastercard? (from 1 and 2)
4. What is the total number of people without a mastercard?
5. what is the probability that someone without a mastercard has an amex? (from 3 and 4)

That should help you understand what is behind the equations.

[edit] our posts seem to have crossed ... what's important is your method.
(I got 9/52 ≈ 0.17308 different rounding)
 
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