Probability of finding a particle in a region

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The discussion revolves around a quantum mechanics problem involving a particle constrained to move in one dimension between two rigid walls. The original poster presents a wave function at time t=0 and seeks to determine the probability of finding the particle in a specific region as well as ensuring the wave function is normalized.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the normalization of the wave function and the role of the constant B. There are discussions on the use of energy eigenfunctions and how they relate to the wave function. Questions are raised about the nature of B and its implications for the evolution of the wave function.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the normalization process and the application of the evolution operator. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of energy eigenfunctions, but no consensus has been reached on the normalization of the wave function or the treatment of the constant B.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the normalization of the wave function and the interpretation of the constant B, which may affect the evolution of the wave function over time. The original poster has indicated that they are interested in the probability for t>0, which adds complexity to the discussion.

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Homework Statement


A particle is restrained to move in 1D between two rigid walls localized in ##x=0## and ##x=a##. For ##t=0##, it’s described by:

$$\psi(x,0) = \left[\cos^{2}\left(\frac{\pi}{a}x\right)-\cos\left(\frac{\pi}{a}x\right)\right]\sin\left(\frac{\pi}{a}x\right)+B $$

, determine the probability of finding the particle between 0 and ##\frac{a}{4}##.

Homework Equations


(1) ##\phi_{n}(x)=\sqrt{\frac{2}{a}}\sin(\frac{n\pi}{a}x)##
(2) ##B=\sum_{n} C_{n}\phi_{n}(x)##

The Attempt at a Solution



Using some trigonometry and the orthonormal base (equation 1), I can write the wave function as:

$$\psi(x,0)=\sqrt{\frac{a}{32}}\phi_{1}(x)+\sqrt{\frac{a}{8}}\phi_{2}(x)+\sqrt{\frac{a}{32}}\phi_{3}(x)+B$$

I still can’t use the evolution operator. I must find an expression to ##B##, so I can put it in terms of the base.

I used the equation 2 and after finding the value of ##C_{n}##, and noticing that only odd values of n contributes to the wave function:

$$B\rightarrow -\frac{B}{\pi}\sqrt{8a}\sum_{0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{2n+1}\phi_{2n+1}(x)$$

I can write the wave function like this:
$$\psi(x,0)=\bigg( \sqrt{\frac{a}{32}}-\frac{B}{\pi}\sqrt{8a}\bigg)\phi_{1}(x) + \sqrt{\frac{a}{8}}\phi_{2}(x) + \bigg(\sqrt{\frac{a}{32}}-\frac{B}{3\pi}\sqrt{8a}\bigg)\phi_{3}(x) - \frac{B}{\pi}\sqrt{8a}\sum_{2}^{\infty}\frac{1}{2n+1}\phi_{2n+1}(x)$$My problem is how should I continue. Am I sure this is normalized? Probably not, but how to find a constant so I can be sure it's normalized? It’s just finding the value ##B## using ##\langle\psi|\psi\rangle##? Or there is other way? Because using ##\langle\psi|\psi\rangle## I get a quadratic equation, and I’m not so sure that is this way.
 
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What are you trying to find? Do energy eigenfunctions help you in this?
 
Gonv said:
determine the probability of finding the particle between 0 and a4\frac{a}{4}.
To clarify, do you want this probability only at time 0 or do you want it as a function of time?
 
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jtbell said:
To clarify, do you want this probability only at time 0 or do you want it as a function of time?

You are right, it's for t>0, I will edit it. Thank you

Edit: Well, I noticed I can't edit the original post.
 
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PeroK said:
What are you trying to find? Do energy eigenfunctions help you in this?

I'm trying to determine the probability of finding the particle between 0 and a/4 for a t>0
 
Hmmm, I'm confused. You have the following initial wave function:

Gonv said:
$$\psi(x,0) = \left[\cos^{2}\left(\frac{\pi}{a}x\right)-\cos\left(\frac{\pi}{a}x\right)\right]\sin\left(\frac{\pi}{a}x\right)+B $$
When I first saw this, I thought B is a constant, maybe for normalization although it's in an odd place for a normalization constant. Then you have this:

Homework Equations


(1) ##\phi_{n}(x)=\sqrt{\frac{2}{a}}\sin(\frac{n\pi}{a}x)##
(2) ##B=\sum_{n} C_{n}\phi_{n}(x)##

OK, (1) are the energy eigenfunctions for the "particle in a box." But where does (2) come from? Is it saying that B isn't a constant after all, but instead, a function? A linear combination of all the energy eigenfunctions, with constant coefficients ##C_n## that are as yet undetermined?
 
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jtbell said:
Hmmm, I'm confused. You have the following initial wave function:When I first saw this, I thought B is a constant, maybe for normalization although it's in an odd place for a normalization constant. Then you have this:
OK, (1) are the energy eigenfunctions for the "particle in a box." But where does (2) come from? Is it saying that B isn't a constant after all, but instead, a function? A linear combination of all the energy eigenfunctions, with constant coefficients ##C_n## that are as yet undetermined?
I understand, sorry I wasn't very clear. Yes, B it is a constant. But even if it is a known constant, when I make it act the evolution operator, I can't just make it evolve a constant. I only con aply the evolution operator to a state given by the base (1). So, what did I do so I can aply the evolution operator to the constant? I expanded in a Fourier serie, so now it's in term of the orthonormal base, basically that's the equation (2). Now it's expanded I can aply the evolution operator, and try to determine the probability asked.
I hope it is clear now.

Now I want to make sure it is normalized, and there is where I have my doubts of how to do it.
 

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