Probability of finding an electron

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the probability of finding an electron in a specific location, particularly on the z-axis, when it is in a px orbital. It explores concepts related to wave functions, probability distributions, and the implications of measuring probabilities at specific points versus over finite volumes.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the probability of finding an electron on the z-axis is zero, suggesting that since the exact boundary for finding an electron is uncertain, a probability of zero may not be justified.
  • Another participant asserts that the instructor is correct, stating that the electron wave function is spread over a volume and that a point (like the z-axis) has no volume, leading to a probability of zero.
  • A follow-up question asks if the same reasoning applies to the x-axis, implying a potential misunderstanding of how probabilities are calculated in relation to dimensions.
  • One participant provides a mathematical expression to support the claim that if the volume is zero, then the probability is zero.
  • Another participant generalizes the discussion by stating that the probability of a continuous random variable having a specific value is zero, reinforcing the earlier points made about the nature of probability distributions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of probability at specific points versus over volumes. While some support the idea that the probability is zero at a point, others challenge this notion, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights assumptions about the nature of wave functions and the interpretation of probabilities in quantum mechanics. There is an implicit dependence on definitions of volume and probability that remains unexamined.

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Let us assume that we have an electron belonging to the px orbital. In that case what would be the probability of finding it on the z axis? Would it be zero? My teacher says so, but I think that because we can't predict the boundary where there is 100% possibility of finding an electron, we can't find a point where the probability of finding it is 0. Who is correct?
 
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You instructor is correct if I understand your question. The electron wave function is spread over a volume. Any finite volume the electron will have some chance of being found there. [edit: the smaller the volume the smaller the probability] The z-axis has no volume so the probability is zero.
 
Paul Colby said:
You instructor is correct if I understand your question. The electron wave function is spread over a volume. Any finite volume the electron will have some chance of being found there. [edit: the smaller the volume the smaller the probability] The z-axis has no volume so the probability is zero.
Does that mean that the probability of finding the electron on the x-axis is 0 too, as it has no volume like the Z axis?
 
Yes, written out ##P_{\Delta V}=\int\int\int_{\Delta V} \vert \psi(x)\vert^2 d^3x## if ##\Delta V=0## then ##P=0##.
 
This discussion is a special case of an obvious principle. The probability of a random variable, with a continuous distribution, having a specific value, is 0.
 

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