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The discussion centers on calculating the probability of an archer hitting a target using a probability p of 0.7 over n shots, specifically 100 shots. The expected number of hits is calculated as 70, with a standard deviation of approximately 6. The participants confirm that the interval of hits (58, 82) represents a 95% confidence interval, indicating that the actual number of hits will fall within this range 95% of the time. Additionally, they explore the probability of hitting the target 64 times or fewer, resulting in a z-score of -1 and a probability of 0.16.

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Expected number of shots on target
Say an archer has a probability p of hitting the target.
Given n shots at the target, the number of hits = np
The standard deviation of hits = ##\sqrt{np(1-p)}##

Say p = 0.7
Given 100 shots, my expected/average number of hits = ##100 \times 0.7 = 70##
The standard deviation for the number of hits = ##\sqrt {100 \times 0.7 \times 0.3} \approx 6##

We can assume this to be a normal distribution because the number of successes > 10 and the number of failures > 10.

Does this mean that (##2 \times 6 = 12##) 95% of the time the average number of hits = ##70 \pm 12## (mean ##\pm 2 \times## standard deviation)?

So we have an interval (58, 82). Is this a confidence interval or something else?
 
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TL;DR Summary: Expected number of shots on target

Say an archer has a probability p of hitting the target.
Given n shots at the target, the number of hits = np
The standard deviation of hits = ##\sqrt{np(1-p)}##

Say p = 0.7
Given 100 shots, my expected/average number of hits = ##100 \times 0.7 = 70##
The standard deviation for the number of hits = ##\sqrt {10 \times 0.7 \times 0.3} \approx 1.4##

We can assume this to be a normal distribution because the number of successes > 10 and the number of failures > 10.

Does this mean that (##2 \times 1.4 = 2.8##) 95% of the time the average number of hits = ##70 \pm 2.8## (mean ##\pm 2 \times## standard deviation)?
That standard deviation is too small. You dropped a zero. n = 100, not 10.
 
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Hornbein said:
That standard deviation is too small. You dropped a zero. n = 100, not 10.
I made some edits.
 
Looks OK to me.

Take out "average." If we did an actual trial we'd just count the number of hits and wouldn't be averaging anything.

On average in 95% of trials the number of hits is in the interval 70±12. That is, it isn't guaranteed to be 95%. The actual percentage of 100-shot trials that would meet this criterion is a random variable with expected value of 95%.
 
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Looks OK to me.

Take out "average." If we did an actual trial we'd just count the number of hits and wouldn't be averaging anything.

On average in 95% of trials the number of hits is in the interval 70±12. That is, it isn't guaranteed to be 95%. The actual percentage of trials that would meet this criterion is a random variable with expected value of 95%.
That is to say the number of hits will be in the interval (58, 82), 95% of the time?
 
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Does this mean that (##2 \times 6 = 12##) 95% of the time the average number of hits = ##70 \pm 12##
You should say "is within ##\pm 12## of ##70##", not "=".
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(mean ##\pm 2 \times## standard deviation)?

So we have an interval (58, 82). Is this a confidence interval or something else?
It is the 95% confidence interval. There are other intervals with different confidence levels.
 
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That is to say the number of hits will be in the interval (58, 82), 95% of the time?
That's the expectation. In real life it might be different. In math we might say that it converges to 95% as the number of 100-shot trials goes to infinity.
 
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@Hornbein can I find the probability of hitting the target 64/less times in 100 attempts now?

##\text{z score} = \frac{ 64- 70}{6} = -1##
The probability associated with a ##\text{z score} = -1## is ##0.16##
##P(X \leq 64) = 0.16##
:partytime:
 
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@Hornbein can I find the probability of hitting the target 64/less times in 100 attempts now?

##\text{z score} = \frac{ 64- 70}{6} = -1##
The probability associated with a ##\text{z score} = -1## is ##0.16##
##P(X \leq 64) = 0.16##
:partytime:
Looks good to me.
 
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Hornbein said:
Looks good to me.
Are you sure? 🤔
 
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No. I don't get paid to do this.
 
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