Probability of N molecules in a volume of 3/4V and none in 1/4V

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The discussion focuses on calculating the probability of N air molecules being contained within a volume of 3/4V while none are found in the remaining volume of 1/4V. The probability of finding all N molecules in 3/4V is expressed as Pr = 4N/3V, while the probability of finding none in 1/4V is given by Pr = (3V - 4N)/3V. The approach utilizes a coin toss analogy to simplify the understanding of the distribution of molecules across the two sections of the room.

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Estimate the probability that in a room of volume V, all the N molecules of air are found in volume [itex]\frac{3V}{4}[/itex] and none at all in the reaining volume V/4
My take to the solution is

Pr of finding N molecules in [itex]\frac{3V}{4}[/itex] : [itex]\frac{N}{3V/4}[/itex]= [itex]\frac{4N}{3V}[/itex]
Pr finding none in V/4: 1-[itex]\frac{4N}{3V}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{3V-4N}{3V}[/itex]

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I used coin toss logic. No idea i did it correct. I'm new at staistical mechanics. I'm kinda lost just give me hints.
 
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Estimate the probability that in a room of volume V, all the N molecules of air are found in volume[itex]{3V} \div {4}[/itex] and none at all in the reaining volume [itex]{V}\div{4}[/itex].

My take to the solution is

Pr of finding N molecules in [itex]{3V} \div {4}[/itex] : [itex]{N} \div {3V/4}[/itex] = [itex]{4N} \div {3V}[/itex]

Pr finding none in V/4: [itex]1- {4N} \div {3V}[/itex] = [itex]{3V-4N} \div {3V}[/itex]

That's not a very good estimate. Think about it this way: You divide the room into two parts, call them section A and section B. Section A is 3 times as large in volume as section B.

Suppose you start off with an empty room (no air at all). Then you introduce a single molecule into the room at a random location. Then the probability will be 3/4 that the molecule will be placed into section A. Now introduce a second molecule. The probability that it will be in section A is again 3/4. So the probability that the first two molecules will be released into section A is:

[itex]P_2 = (3/4)*(3/4) = (3/4)^2[/itex]

So if you keep on releasing molecules into the room at a random location, then the probability that the first [itex]N[/itex] molecules will all be in section A is:

[itex]P_N = ?[/itex]
 
Thx!
 
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