Probability of Negative Value in Sz 1/2 Spin System w/ Lambda 1 & 2

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The discussion revolves around the probability of obtaining a negative value in the Sz measurement of a spin 1/2 system, specifically when given certain parameters for lambda. Participants are exploring the implications of quantum mechanics principles related to spin states and measurement probabilities.

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  • Participants are questioning the clarity of the original problem statement and the assumptions regarding the measurement of spin states. There are discussions about the nature of the wavefunction and the interpretation of the states involved. Some participants are attempting to clarify the relationship between the wavefunction and the probabilities of measuring specific spin values.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the nature of probabilities in quantum mechanics. There is an acknowledgment of the need for further clarification on the definitions of the states involved and the normalization factor. Some guidance has been offered regarding the mathematical representation of probabilities, but no consensus has been reached on the original question.

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Homework Statement
Will the probability to provide a negative value of a Sz 1/2 spin system always be 0? If lambda 1 = hbar/2 and lambda 2 = -h bar/2 ?
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P1(Sz = hbar/2) = |c1|^2
Will the probability to provide a negative value of a Sz 1/2 spin system always be 0? If lambda 1 = hbar/2 and lambda 2 = -h bar/2 ?
 
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The question is not clear. Can you post the full statement?

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Given particle in spin state: wavefunction in bra-ket notation = 3N|1> + i4N|2> (1/2 spin state in z axis)

Q. What is the probability that a measurement of Sz will provide negative value?

My attempt at solution is using the equation I provided, a negative value cannot be obtained as it must be squared. Is this correct?
 
Probabilities are always positive or zero, but it has nothing to do with the sign of what will be measured.

In other words, the question asks for the probability of measuring the spin as spin-down.

ellenbaker said:
Given particle in spin state: wavefunction in bra-ket notation = 3N|1> + i4N|2> (1/2 spin state in z axis)
I don't understand what the states ##\ket{1}## and ##\ket{2}## correspond to.

I guess you will also have to figure out what the value of ##N## is.
 
For a spin 1/2 the eigenvalues of ##\sigma_z## are ##\pm \hbar/2##. A general state is
$$|\psi \rangle = a |\hbar/2 \rangle+ b|-\hbar/2 \rangle, \quad |a|^2+|b|^2=1.$$
The probability to find ##+\hbar/2## when measuring ##\sigma_z## is
$$P(+\hbar/2)=|a|^2,$$
and the probability to find ##-\hbar/2## is
$$P(-\hbar/2)=|b|^2.$$
So what's the question?

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