Probability of penetrating a potential barrier

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The problem involves calculating the probability of a particle penetrating two potential barriers with different heights and widths. The original poster seeks to determine the range of energies for which it is more likely for the particle to exit through the right barrier compared to the left.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the mathematical expressions for the probabilities of penetrating each barrier and explore the implications of the inequality Pright > Pleft. There is mention of simplifying the expressions by canceling common factors and considering the assumption E << V0 for potential simplifications.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights on simplifying the problem, while others are exploring different mathematical approaches, such as the potential use of a binomial expansion. The discussion appears to be productive, with various lines of reasoning being explored without a clear consensus yet.

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The original poster notes the constraints of limited time due to the exam context, which may influence the approaches being considered.

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Homework Statement


The probability for a particle of energy E<<V0 to penetrate a potential barrier of height V0 and width d is approximately \frac{16E}{V_0}exp\left[\frac{-2d\sqrt{2m(V_0-E)}}{\hbar}\right].
An electron moves between two potential barriers of height V0 and 2v0 that are of widths 2a and a respectively . For what range of energies is it more likely to exit through the right barrier than through the left?

Homework Equations


Given in question.

The Attempt at a Solution


P_\text{left}=\frac{16E}{V_0}exp\left[\frac{-4a\sqrt{2m(V_0-E)}}{\hbar}\right]

P_\text{left}=\frac{16E}{2V_0}exp\left[\frac{-2a\sqrt{2m(2V_0-E)}}{\hbar}\right]

I have attempted to solve the inequality Pright>Pleft. Due to the two square roots I had to square the entire expression twice to obtain an expression without surds, leaving me to solve:
9E^2+\left(\frac{10\hbar^2}{4a^2}(\ln{2})^2-12V_0\right)E+4V_0^2-\frac{3\hbar^2}{a^2}(\ln{2})^2V_0&gt;0

I know I can solve this to find a range of energies, however I think there should be an easier way to solve it, since it is an exam question with limited time.
 
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EGN123 said:

Homework Statement


The probability for a particle of energy E<<V0 to penetrate a potential barrier of height V0 and width d is approximately \frac{16E}{V_0}exp\left[\frac{-2d\sqrt{2m(V_0-E)}}{\hbar}\right].
An electron moves between two potential barriers of height V0 and 2v0 that are of widths 2a and a respectively . For what range of energies is it more likely to exit through the right barrier than through the left?

Homework Equations


Given in question.

The Attempt at a Solution


P_\text{left}=\frac{16E}{V_0}exp\left[\frac{-4a\sqrt{2m(V_0-E)}}{\hbar}\right]

P_\text{left}=\frac{16E}{2V_0}exp\left[\frac{-2a\sqrt{2m(2V_0-E)}}{\hbar}\right]

I have attempted to solve the inequality Pright>Pleft. Due to the two square roots I had to square the entire expression twice to obtain an expression without surds, leaving me to solve:
9E^2+\left(\frac{10\hbar^2}{4a^2}(\ln{2})^2-12V_0\right)E+4V_0^2-\frac{3\hbar^2}{a^2}(\ln{2})^2V_0&gt;0

I know I can solve this to find a range of energies, however I think there should be an easier way to solve it, since it is an exam question with limited time.

Just looking at the maths - why not just cancel the ##\frac{16E}{V_0}## before you start?
 
PeroK said:
Just looking at the maths - why not just cancel the ##\frac{16E}{V_0}## before you start?
I did that as part of the maths which led to the final inequality, I just didnt show the steps as its just rearranging the original inequality.
 
EGN123 said:
I did that as part of the maths which led to the final inequality, I just didnt show the steps as its just rearranging the original inequality.

Yes, of course! The clue is ##E << V_0## I think. That suggests a binomial expansion to me.
 
PeroK said:
Yes, of course! The clue is ##E << V_0## I think. That suggests a binomial expansion to me.
I hadn't thought of that at all. I'll give it a try, thanks!
 

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