Probablities from wave function

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The discussion revolves around calculating the probability of a particle in a one-dimensional box being found within a specific range, using the wave function associated with its quantum state. The problem involves evaluating an integral of the squared wave function for the second excited state.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the integration of the squared sine function and question the correctness of their calculations. There are discussions about using trigonometric identities to simplify the integral, and participants express confusion over the results leading to zero probability.

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Some participants have provided guidance on evaluating the integral and pointed out potential mistakes in the original poster's calculations. There is an ongoing examination of the mathematical steps involved, with various interpretations being explored without reaching a consensus.

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Homework Statement


P = \int_a^b \, \left| \psi(x) \right|^2 \, dx

If the particle in the box is in the second excited state (i.e., n=3), what is the probability P that it is between x=L/3 and x=L? To find this probability, you will need to evaluate the integral:

\int_{L/3}^L \left(\sqrt{\frac{2}{L}} \sin \left( \frac{n \pi x}{L} \right) \right)^2 \, dx = \frac{2}{L} \int_{L/3}^L \sin^2 \left( \frac{n \pi x}{L} \right) \, dx .

Homework Equations


This one I think.
<br /> * \int \sin^2(kx) dx = \frac{x}{2} - \frac{1}{4k} \sin(2 k x) +C, and<br />

The Attempt at a Solution


Set k = n(pi)/L or np/L

[2/L][(x/2 - 1/4k)sin(2kx)]|L and L/3

put k back in as it is.

[2/L]{[L/2 - L/4np]sin(2*np/L*L)]-[L/3*2 - L/4np]sin(2 * np/L * L/3)]}

cancel out the L's and plug-in n = 3

2{[(1/2 - 1/12p)sin(6p)] - [(1/6) - (1/12p)]sin(2p)]}

well the answer isn't 0. but sin6p and sin2p both equal 0
2[0 - 0] = 0

Where did I go wrong?
 
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sin^2(kx) = [1-cos(2kx)]/2. Now can you integrate directly?
 
doesn't seem like it... integrating the cos(2kx) part just gives me a sin function again and again I get an integer times pi within leading to more 0. right?
 
(I had merely showed you how to evaluate the integral sin^2(kx), for which you have already written the formula.)

Anyway, you have done this mistake:
2{[(1/2 - 1/12p)sin(6p)] - [(1/6) - (1/12p)]sin(2p)]} = 2{(1/2) - (1/6)} = 2/3.
 
What is mean probability is zero?
 
It looks like you mistakenly are grouping the sine function of your integral outside the difference from your integral formula: (u-v)sin(w) should be (u - v sin(w) ).
 

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