Problem 2.4 Griffiths E&M 3rd ed -- E-field above a square loop

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The discussion focuses on solving Problem 2.4 from Griffiths' "Introduction to Electrodynamics" (3rd edition), which involves calculating the electric field above a square loop with uniform line charge λ. The solution references Example 2.1, which addresses a similar problem involving a straight line segment. The key confusion arises from the necessity of multiplying by cosθ to isolate the z-direction component of the electric field, despite this being implied in the derived equation. The correct approach is to first apply the cosθ factor before multiplying by 4 to account for all sides of the square loop.

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Homework Statement


The problem states, "Find the electric field a distance z above the center of a square loop (sides of length a) carrying a uniform line charge λ. " The hint says to use the result of example 2.1.

Example 2.1 is a similar problem, but instead of a square loop you are asked to "Find the electric field a distance z above the midpoint of a straight line segment of length 2L which carries a uniform line charge λ."

Homework Equations


The electric field of a line charge:
r)}=\frac{1}{4\pi&space;\varepsilon}\int&space;\frac{\lambda&space;(r')}{r^2}\hat{\mathbf{r}}dl'.gif
(equation 1)The example starts by putting this equation (in the form of dE) into the z-direction by putting a cosθ at the end. It looks like this:
{1}{4\pi&space;\varepsilon&space;}(\frac{\lambda&space;dx}{r^2})cos\Theta&space;\hat{\mathbf{z}}.gif
(equation 2)
The problem is solved and this result is given:
mathbf{E(r)}=\frac{1}{4\pi&space;\varepsilon}&space;\frac{2\lambda&space;L}{\sqrt{z^2+L^2}}.gif
(equation 3)
The example states that this equation is in the z-direction, and this is the equation that will be used for problem 2.4.

The Attempt at a Solution


I am following the solutions manual on this one, as I am doing all of this for self-study. There is just one thing that I cannot understand from the solution.

To adapt the above equation to problem 2.4, we make the substitution that L=a/2 , or L=2a.
Then substitute
2)^2)}.gif


This results in:
4&space;}}.gif


Then multiply by 4 because we have a square loop instead of just one line segment.

Here is what I do not understand: the solutions manual states to now multiply by cosθ to get only the z-direction. But wasn't that already done to derive equation 3 that we used for this problem? The book even states that this equation is in the z-direction. So why do it again??

I hope this is enough information, thanks for your help!
 
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darkexcalibur87 said:
Here is what I do not understand: the solutions manual states to now multiply by cosθ to get only the z-direction. But wasn't that already done to derive equation 3 that we used for this problem? The book even states that this equation is in the z-direction. So why do it again??

Hello, and welcome to PF!

Think about the direction of the electric field due to one side of the square at the point that is located a distance z above the midpoint of the square.

Aside: Logically speaking, the solution manual should have first multiplied by ##\cos \theta## and then multiplied by 4.
 

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