Problem about conservation of energy

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to the conservation of energy, specifically involving the motion of a ball thrown upwards. The original poster is uncertain about whether the ball will reach a specified height based on its initial kinetic energy and mass.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the conservation of energy principle but expresses confusion about interpreting the results, particularly regarding velocity and height. Some participants suggest using a reference level for potential energy calculations and propose a diagram to clarify the problem setup.

Discussion Status

Participants have engaged in a constructive dialogue, with one suggesting a method to calculate the maximum height using the conservation of energy equation. There is a shared exploration of the problem, with multiple participants arriving at similar height calculations, although no explicit consensus is stated.

Contextual Notes

The original poster's calculations involve assumptions about the reference level for potential energy and the conditions at the apex of the ball's trajectory. The discussion reflects a focus on understanding the application of energy conservation without resolving the underlying uncertainties.

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I have a problem about conservation of energy I did it but I'm not sure if it is correct...

"From 2.15m a ball is thrown upwards with KE of 5.4 J it's mass is .6 kg will it go 3.04 m high? use the law of conservation of energy"

What I did was set KEinitial + PEinitial = KEfinal + PEfinal

eventually ending up with v = .2357 m/s now coming to that I thought that maybe that means it will reach the height because It still has speed at the designated height but then I realized its not velocity and if it was going down it would still have a positive speed...can anyone check this out for me how do I know if it will reach that height I dont' really get it...I used the designated 3.04 for the PEfinal calculation..
 
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For this problem, a diagram would be best. Point a would be ball at 2.15m (at rest). Make this your reference leve. And then there is point b, some point higher than point a, assuming its the apex. KEa + PEa = KEb + PEb. Now, there is no potential energy at the reference level so there is only KEa left on that side. You already said that was equal to 5.4 J. On the other side, for point b, there is no kinetic energy because the ball has reached its apex. The velocity would be zero, so you would only have PEb left. That equals mgh. The mass is .6 and g is 9.81.

So you have 54J = .6X9.81h. Solve for h. That says how high the ball went. Add that number to your 2.15m. Is it greater than 3.04m?
 
wow thanks

Wow I never thought to start the refernce line at 2.15 that's a great idea thank you very much I ended up getting 3.06 for the total height after adding it to 2.15 which means it does reach the 3.04m I think that's right? thank you very much!:cool:
 
Yeah, I got 3.07, along the same answer as you, so yes, it did reach 3.04m. Glad I could help.
 

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