Problem from Eisberg: Blackbody Radiation

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to blackbody radiation, specifically focusing on the energy density of radiation as a function of frequency and the integration of this function over specific limits to demonstrate a relationship involving the wavelength at which radiation is most intense.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the integration of a specific function related to blackbody radiation and explore the use of standard integrals to evaluate the necessary components. There are attempts to apply integration techniques and differentiation rules, as well as questions about the completeness of the problem statement.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using standard integrals and integration techniques, while others express uncertainty about the completeness of the problem details. The discussion reflects a mix of approaches and ongoing exploration of the integration challenge.

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There are indications that assumptions may be necessary for the problem, and one participant questions whether all relevant details have been provided. The specific limits of integration and the nature of the constants involved are also under consideration.

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Homework Statement


In case of Cavity Radiation(Blackbody radiation) let \rho_{T}(\nu)d\nu denote the energy density of radiation having frequency in the interval \nu and \nu + d\nu.
Then we need to show that \frac{\int_{0}^{\lambda_{max}} \rho_{T}(\nu)d\nu}{\int_{0}^{\infty} \rho_{T}(\nu)d\nu} \approx \frac{1}{4}
where \lambda_{max} is the wavelength at which the radiation is most intense.



Homework Equations


The obvious rela\evant equation is
\rho_{T}(\nu)d\nu = \frac{8\pi h\nu^{3}}{c^{3}}\cdot \frac{d\nu}{e^{\frac{h\nu}{kT}}-1} . But the problem is the integration part. Can some one please help me with that?


The Attempt at a Solution

 
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OK, so:

\int \nu ^3 \cdot (e^{\frac{h\nu}{k_b T}}-1)^{-1} \cdot \delta \nu

Is the equation you need to solve, so you can use:

\int A \delta B = AB - \int B \delta A

(from the differentiation product rule). There's a start. Let me know if it helped.

Sam :smile:
 
Oops, and you'll probably need this standard integral:

\int_0^{\infty} \frac{x^3}{e^x -1}\delta x = \frac{\pi^4}{15}

Sam :smile:
 
BerryBoy said:
Oops, and you'll probably need this standard integral:

\int_0^{\infty} \frac{x^3}{e^x -1}\delta x = \frac{\pi^4}{15}

Sam :smile:

Yes i could evaluate the denominator using the standard integral u have mentioned, however the Numerator is creating trouble. I have also tried a parts argument, doesn't seem to be taking me any where :cry:
Some1 please help asap
 
I can't do this without some assumptions, have you stated the WHOLE question from the start?

Sam
 
Yes I have indeed given all the necessary details the problem demands. Essentially my doubt boils down to evaluating the integral
\int_{0}^{a} \frac{t^{3}}{e^{t}-1}dt ; a being some constant.
 

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