Problem in constructing Matrix representation in |↑↓> basis

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The discussion revolves around deriving the matrix representation for an operator Q in the |S1=1/2, m1> |S2=1/2, m2> basis, specifically focusing on the bra-ket notation and the components of the matrix representation.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a matrix representation for operator Q and asks if it is correct.
  • Another participant offers assistance and discusses the ij component of the matrix, suggesting that all elements in the first row should have the same "bra".
  • A later reply confirms the suspicion of a typo in the matrix representation, indicating that the rest of the representation appears correct.

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There is a general agreement that a typo exists in the matrix representation, but the overall correctness of the representation remains unresolved.

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The discussion does not clarify the specific nature of operator Q or the implications of the matrix representation, leaving some assumptions and definitions unaddressed.

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If I want to derive the matrix representation for operator Q in the |S1=1/2 ,m1> |S2=1/2 ,m2 > basis, where |Si,mi> are common eigenstates of S2 , Si,z for the ith particle.

And I do it in this way:
<↑↑|Q|↑↑> <↑↑|Q|↑↓> <↑↓|Q|↓↑> <↑↑|Q|↓↓>
<↑↓|Q|↑↑> <↑↓|Q|↑↓> <↑↓|Q|↓↑> <↑↓|Q|↓↓>
... ... ... ...
... ... ... ...

|↑↑>=|S1=1/2 ,m1=+1/2> |S2=1/2 ,m2=+1/2 >
Is it correct?
THANKS
 
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Let's see...the ij component (row i, column j) in the basis \{e_i\} is Q_{ij}=(Qe_j)_i=\langle e_i,Qe_j\rangle. In bra-ket notation, Q_{ij}=\langle i|Q|j\rangle. So everything on your first row should have the same "bra", but one of them is different from the other three. I suspect it's just a typo, since the rest of it looks fine.
 
Fredrik said:
Let's see...the ij component (row i, column j) in the basis \{e_i\} is Q_{ij}=(Qe_j)_i=\langle e_i,Qe_j\rangle. In bra-ket notation, Q_{ij}=\langle i|Q|j\rangle. So everything on your first row should have the same "bra", but one of them is different from the other three. I suspect it's just a typo, since the rest of it looks fine.

oh,ya, you are right, it's just a typo. Thanks for teaching:smile:
 

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