Problem with int(arctan(B-x/tan(a))/(d-x)) dx

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the integral int{ arctan [ (B - (x/tan(a)))/(d-x) ]} dx. Participants explore potential methods for evaluating this integral, including substitutions and references to external resources.

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  • One participant expresses difficulty in calculating the integral and seeks assistance.
  • Another participant suggests that combining the title and the expression could lead to a solvable form, but requests verification of correctness before proceeding.
  • A participant proposes that the integral may not be expressible in terms of elementary functions, but mentions a substitution that could simplify it to a different form.
  • There is a request for the initial steps of the proposed substitution to be shared.
  • External resources are provided to assist with the integral, with one participant expressing skepticism about the difficulty level of the integration.
  • Participants express a willingness to attempt the integration themselves, despite varying levels of confidence in their skills.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the solvability of the integral in terms of elementary functions, and there are differing opinions on the approach to take for evaluation.

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Some assumptions about the variables and constants involved in the integral are not explicitly stated, and the discussion includes references to external tools for evaluating integrals, which may have limitations in their applicability.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in advanced integration techniques, particularly those dealing with arctangent functions and substitutions in calculus.

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hi there,

i have problems to calculate following integral:

int{ arctan [ (B - (x/tan(a)))/(d-x) ]} dx

any ideas?

thanks for the help
 
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Interesting puzzle is to combine data from the title and the formatted expression to come to an actual expression to integrate! I think I've come to this:

int{ arctan [ (B - (x/tan(a)))/(d-x) ]} dx

But don't want to consider working on it untily ou can verify this is correct?
 
sorry for the kauderwelsch (looked fine in the editor).
your assumption was correct and i have corrected it.
 
My first guess was that it wouldn't be possible in terms of elementary functions, but Following a substitution of u= d-x you can get an integral in the form

\int \arctan \left( \frac{T+x}{x} \right) dx where T is some constant.

That one is possible, but definitely not easy. Do you need the steps or just an answer?
 
thx gib z,
i will try to convert it.
if its not too much trouble, i would like to see the first few steps.
 
You can see the steps done to evaluate that integral here: http://www40.wolframalpha.com/input/pod.jsp?id=MSP10619827f2b7e0hife90000527074ag4ca4963a&s=39

Whilst I normally would say give it a try yourself, I'm not sure this one's worth it unless you are really good at integration or are extremely persistent.
 
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thank you for the link.
i will give it a try myself. i am not very good at integration, but i will be very persistent.
 
thx for the updated link
 

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