Problems about energy and dimension (checking my solutions)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the energy content of various fuels and their cost-effectiveness in terms of Joules per dollar. The subject area includes energy conversion, unit analysis, and comparative cost evaluation of energy sources such as gasoline, electricity, natural gas, coal, and corn oil.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants present calculations for energy content per dollar for different fuels and question the accuracy of ratios derived from these calculations. There is a focus on understanding discrepancies in the interpretation of cost comparisons, particularly regarding coal and corn oil.

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Some participants have provided calculations that appear correct, while others are questioning the interpretations of these results, particularly the ratio of costs between coal and corn oil. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the calculated values and the assumptions made in the comparisons.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the depth of exploration and the information available for discussion. There is a noted confusion regarding the interpretation of ratios and comparisons among the energy sources.

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Hence no one in the science section helped me I decided to come here. Anyways, the problems are just basic math.[/B]
1 )A gallon of gasoline carries with it about 1.3*10^8 J of energy. Given a price of $3 per gallon, how many Joules can you get for a dollar?

2)Electricity goes for about $0.05 per kilowatt hour. A kilowatt hour is just a weird way to write Joules because a watt is a joule per second, and a kilowatt hour is the number of Joules one would get from running 1000 W times one hour (3,600 seconds). In the form of electricity, how many Joules can you get for a dollar?

3)A standard cubic foot of natural gas carries with it about 1.1 x 106 J of energy. You can get about 5 x 105 British thermal units(BTUs) of gas for a dollar, and there are about 1,030 BTUs in a standard cubic foot. How many Joules of energy in the form of natural gas can you get for a dollar?

4)A ton of coal holds about 3.2 x1010 Joules of energy and costs about $40. How many Joules of energy in the form of coal can you get for a dollar?

5)Corn oil costs about $0.10 per fluid ounce wholesale. A fluid ounce carries about 240 dietary calories (which a scientist would call kilocalories). A calorie is about 4.2 Joules. How many Joules of energy in the form of corn oil can you get for a dollar?

6)Rank these as energy sources,cheap to expensive. What is the ratio in cost per Joule between the most expensive and the cheapest form?

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1) 1.3*(10^8)/3= 4.3*10^7
2)kw*h=1000w*3600s=1000J/s*3600s=3.6*10^6J
so electricity goes $0.05/3.6*10^6 J
for 1 dollar= 20*3.6*10^6 J=7.2*10^7 J
3)(5*10^5 BTUS/ 1030 BTUS)*(1.1*10^16)= 5.3*10^8 J
4)(3.2*10^10)/40 = 8*10^8
5) 240KC*1000C/1KC*4.2=1.008*10^7
6 Coal, natural gas, electricity,gasoline, corn oil
Based on the choices, Corn coil is about 10 times more expensive than coal.
 
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Those are correct but, for the last, you say that with coal you get 4.3x 10^7 Joules per dollar and with corn oil 1.008 x 10^7. That's a ratio 4.3/1.008. Corn oil appears to be about 4 times as expensive, not 10 times. How did you get 10 times?

Ignore this last statement. For some reason, I was thinking the first and last, most efficient and least, were being compared but now I see that coal was just before corn oil.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Those are correct but, for the last, you say that with coal you get 4.3x 10^7 Joules per dollar and with corn oil 1.008 x 10^7. That's a ratio 4.3/1.008. Corn oil appears to be about 4 times as expensive, not 10 times. How did you get 10 times?
For coal I get 8*10^8.
 
TheMathNoob said:
For coal I get 8*10^8.
Ok, but that still does not give 10 times.
 
haruspex said:
Ok, but that still does not give 10 times.
Yes, it's like 80 times
 
TheMathNoob said:
Yes, it's like 80 times
Agreed.
 

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