Process Engineering - Mole Ratio and mole fractions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving the composition of a mineral slurry containing solids, liquids, and toluene. Participants explore the necessary information and methods required to determine the weight percentages of the components, particularly focusing on the mole ratio of toluene to water.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about solving the problem without knowing the molecular mass of toluene, suggesting that the chemical compound's details were not provided.
  • Another participant counters that the molar mass of toluene can be calculated from its formula, indicating that it is a basic substance commonly used in processes.
  • A participant questions whether it is possible to solve the problem without the molecular mass or if the given numbers are sufficient for calculations.
  • It is asserted that converting between molar ratio and weight percent requires knowledge of molar masses, although the source of these values is noted as a separate issue.
  • A later reply emphasizes the need to find the molecular mass of both toluene and water to proceed with the calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that knowing the molecular mass of toluene is essential for solving the problem, but there is disagreement on whether it can be calculated from the information provided or if additional details are necessary.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the reliance on molecular masses for conversions between mole ratios and weight percentages, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the sufficiency of the provided data.

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Homework Statement



A mineral slurry contains 3 components, solids, liquids and toluene.

The slurry has 20 wt% solids and 80 wt% liquid. In the liquid portion of the slurry the mole ratio of toluene to water is 1:5.67

Determine the composition of the slurry (solids, toluene and water) in wt%.

and

Determined the composition of the liquid (toluene and water) in wt%.

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The Attempt at a Solution



Wasn't sure how to do this question without the molecular mass of Toluene (Which I googled, I don't think we were suppose to know what chemical compound of toluene to solve this question).However, is there an alternative method of solving this problem WITHOUT knowing the molar mass or chemical compound of Toluene (we were allowed to use a Periodic Table).

Thanks a bunch
 
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You can easily calculate molar mass of toluene knowing its formula - and toluene is one of rather basic substances, often used in commercial processes.
 
Alright, because this was a practice exam question (not homework), just thought that it'd give you all the information you'd need to know (and that the 'formula' for toluene wasn't given to you).

So there is no way you can do it without the molecular mass of Toluene? (or calculate it with the only given numbers?)
 
No, there is no way to convert between molar ratio and weight percent without knowing molar masses. Where do you get them from is a separate problem - buy you need them.
 
You need to find the molecular mass of toluene and water.
 
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