Product expiration date (good within 12 months after opening)

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The discussion revolves around the expiration date of a spray sun protector, specifically the claim that it is good for 12 months after opening. Participants explore the implications of this expiration date, the potential degradation of the product, and personal experiences with expired skin products.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the necessity of the expiration date, suggesting that the product has not been exposed to the environment and may not spoil.
  • Another participant proposes that chemicals can degrade over time, even if the product remains sealed, and emphasizes the risk of using an expired product.
  • A consumer report is mentioned, indicating that many sunblock products may not be as effective as claimed, raising doubts about the significance of expiration dates.
  • Some participants express skepticism about expiration dates in general, viewing them as business tactics rather than strict guidelines.
  • A personal anecdote is shared about a negative reaction to an expired skin lotion, highlighting the importance of being cautious with expiration dates.
  • There are discussions about the variability of expiration dates across different products, with some participants suggesting flexibility based on the type of product.
  • One participant humorously suggests conducting a personal experiment to compare the efficacy of an old sunblock with a new one, raising questions about how to properly test it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the validity of expiration dates, with some agreeing that caution is warranted while others believe they are often overstated. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the actual implications of using expired sun protection products.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference personal experiences and anecdotal evidence, which may not provide a comprehensive understanding of the topic. There are also varying definitions of expiration dates and their relevance across different product categories.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to consumers concerned about the safety and efficacy of personal care products, particularly those related to sun protection.

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I have a spray sun protector, on it is a date that the product is good until 12 months after opening. However, there is no shelf date. Since it's a spray it has not been in contact with the outside environment, so why would it spoil?

Should I continue using it? In other words, should I not accept the product claim that it expires 12 months after opening?

I can exchange it for a cheap brand for 70% off, but it feels like a waste to throw the bottle away.
 
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It's possible that the chemicals could degrade ven if you don't open it and its more possible that the air can assist in degrading it more.

Not knowing the answer, the question becomes do you want to risk getting a sunburn from using an old and out of date product.
 
A consumer report that just showed up here a week or so ago on the news showed that most sun-block products are not nearly as effective as they claim to be, so I doubt that a "best by..." date makes a huge difference.
I agree, though, that it doesn't have to be open to degrade. Air might not be specifically excluded from the can, even if the propellant is an inert gas.
You could just drape some fabric over your tender bits while tanning. :rolleyes:
 
This is an interesting debate with medications.
http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/update1103a.shtml

Usually I consider expiration dates on most things to be a business tactic and am flexible with it depending on the product.
 
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Danger said:
You could just drape some fabric over your tender bits while tanning. :rolleyes:
Do you realize how awkward that comment is?

Greg Bernhardt said:
This is an interesting debate with medications.
http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/update1103a.shtml

Usually I consider expiration dates on most things to be a business tactic and am flexible with it depending on the product.

I've decided that the expiration date is probably more a theoretical than practical one, the bottle was hardly used anyway. I did exchange two (expensive) sun products that were probably over three years old for two new ones of the cheap brand, I ended up paying a little over a Euro for an €18 purchase: a good deal.

Now the only thing missing is some good weather to test them.
 
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Monique said:
Do you realize how awkward that comment is?

You do know who I am, right? Of course I realize it; that's why I wrote it. (Although I would use the term "suggestive" since it wasn't the least bit awkward for me.)
 
Well, I'd appreciate it if you would refrain from the suggestive remarks. They're awkward, there are already enough people in real life who think that making suggestive or even explicit remarks is appropriate, which it is not.
 
The response by some companies in the US was that the expiration date given is that of the person consuming the product :) .
 
Monique said:
Well, I'd appreciate it if you would refrain from the suggestive remarks. They're awkward, there are already enough people in real life who think that making suggestive or even explicit remarks is appropriate, which it is not.

Actually, the facetious part of my response was saying that I knew it was suggestive. It honestly never occurred to me that a casual reference to nude sunbathing could offend anyone, particularly a European. As I understand it, all beaches in the Netherlands are topless, and many clothing-optional. It just seemed like an innocuous joke. I apologize.
 
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I've had a really bad experience by applying a skin lotion (sun's after burn) that was expired by far. A few hours after I applied it on my whole body, I begun to feel terribly itchy. I could not stop to scratch myself everywhere, when I stopped for a few seconds I would feel like vomiting. I went to a doctor while scracting myself like crazy but then the itchiness disappeared right when he was about to inject me some product.
From that day and on, I took more care about experiration dates for skin products.
In my case it wasn't a spray but just in case, I would not use a product that has expired.
 
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fluidistic said:
I've had a really bad experience

That sounds like a histamine reaction. Is it possible that you're just allergic to the product, or had you used a fresh version previously with no ill effect?
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
Usually I consider expiration dates on most things to be a business tactic and am flexible with it depending on the product.

Meat, bread, fruit, vegetables, and dairy. Everything else is fair game.

I just tested some tortilla chips last night. They "expired" six months ago. The experiment was a failure: I was never able to ascertain how unfit for consumption they were because I couldn't even consume them. I'd recommend them as building material, however.

Specifically, sunblock with zinc oxide (which I think it the most common) is good until prolonged exposure to moisture... but even that I think only pertains to when it's applied and not in storage. Honestly, I don't know.

Buy a brand new bottle. Then you could try it on one part of your body, and compare it to a control group else where on your body. I don't know how you'd achieve double-blind status in this test without someone applying it for you, though. Or maybe putting some of each into shot glasses labeled "A" and "B". Hmm... do you have an assistant to help?

EDIT: Actually, I'm 100% sure I have a bottle of sunblock around that's older than a year. I'll run this test as soon as I get a chance.

DOUBLE EDIT: Is the visible color of skin (i.e. tanned/sunburned/unchanged) a good indicator of efficacy in this case?
 

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