Product rule for vector derivative

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The discussion centers on the application of the product rule for derivatives in the context of vector calculus, specifically when dealing with a position vector defined as p = e(t) p(t). The user explores the implications of treating the base frame e(t) as a function, questioning how the product rule for functions can be applied to a product involving base vectors. Key points include the distinction between dynamic and constant unit vectors and the potential misinterpretation of the product e*p as a non-function. The conversation emphasizes the need for clarity in defining the nature of e(t) and its implications for derivative calculations.

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Say I have a position vector

p = e(t) p(t)

Where, in 2D, e(t) = (e1(t), e2(t)) and p(t) = (p1(t), p2(t))T

And if I conveniently point the FIRST base vector of the frame at the particle, I can use: p(t) = (r1(t), 0)T

I want the velocity, so I take

v = d(e(t))/dt p(t) + e(t) d(p(t))/dt

And from there... blah blah.. I can take the rate of change of the frame, etc... but that is not my concern.

My concern is that I KNOW the product rule for functions: I can prove it and use the rule and it is for functions.
But here, I am using it here NOT for a product of two functions but for a product of a base frame and functions.

So, I can ask my question two ways and I hope someone can answer it both ways.

First, what is it about the frame e(t) that can enable me to treat it like function and blithely apply the product rule.
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Second, what is it about the product rule for functions that can enable me to apply it to base vectors so expeditiously?

In other words: does the base frame have the nature of a function, OR how does product rule for functions extend to the product of things that are not functions?
 
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I'm not sure that I see your concern. e is a unit vector? Is it dynamic or constant? If it's dynamic, I would refrain from expressing it as (r1(t),0), as the second compenent will not always be zero. Also, why is the product e*p not a function?
 

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