Projected motion/trajectory question [EASY]

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The problem involves two rocks, A and B, where rock A is dropped from a height of 100m and rock B is thrown down after 2 seconds. The goal is to determine the initial velocity required for rock B to ensure both rocks hit the river simultaneously, assuming no air resistance.

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  • Participants discuss the kinematic equations relevant to the problem and question the setup of the equations used for both rocks. There is an exploration of the time it takes for rock A to reach the river and the implications of its velocity after 2 seconds.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the original poster's calculations and assumptions, suggesting that the time remaining for rock A to hit the water after 2 seconds is less than initially calculated. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the velocity of rock A at the 2-second mark.

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There are concerns about the clarity of the original attempt at a solution, as an image was provided that some found difficult to read. The discussion also highlights the importance of accurately accounting for the velocity of rock A after its initial drop.

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Homework Statement


The rock 'A' is dropped 100m above a river. After 2 seconds, rock 'B' is thrown down from the same height. What initial velocity must be given to rock 'B' so that both rocks hit the river at the exact same time? [No air resistance]

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http://imgur.com/a/59fkU[/B]

Rock A: v1=0 During a 2s drop it travels 19.6m, -4.9(2)^2+100
So the equation for rock A is d=-4.9(t)^2+80.4
When will rock A hit the river? isolate t and I get ~4.0507 seconds

Rock B: v1=? equation is easy to set up: d=-4.9(t)^2+v1(t)+100 (starts 19.6m behind the dropped rock)
Now we sub in the time rock A hits the river: (4.9(4.0507)^2-100) * (4.0507)^-1=v1
This gives me an answer of ~-4.849m/s
 
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That's relevant equations, not relevant questions. What common kinematic equations might apply to this problem?

Your attempt at solution image is barely readable if at all. Please type in your attempt.
 
gneill said:
That's relevant equations, not relevant questions. What common kinematic equations might apply to this problem?

Your attempt at solution image is barely readable if at all. Please type in your attempt.
Done
 
ujellytek said:
Rock A: v1=0 During a 2s drop it travels 19.6m, -4.9(2)^2+100
So the equation for rock A is d=-4.9(t)^2+80.4
When will rock A hit the river? isolate t and I get ~4.0507 seconds
I think you forgot the velocity that rock A had attained by the time it reached the 2 second mark when you wrote its equation. I think you'll find that the time remaining for rock A to hit the water from the 2 second point is much less than 4 seconds.
 
gneill said:
I think you forgot the velocity that rock A had attained by the time it reached the 2 second mark when you wrote its equation. I think you'll find that the time remaining for rock A to hit the water from the 2 second point is much less than 4 seconds.
You're right, thanks. The velocity then turns out to be ~27.38m/s instead of 4.849m/s
 
That certainly looks better! :smile:
 

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