Projectile ball on curved runway (conservative forces)

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The problem involves a particle projected down a curved runway, starting from a height of 3.00 m and reaching a height of 7.53 m after leaving the runway. The context is centered around the conservation of mechanical energy in a system without friction or air resistance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of mechanical energy, questioning the necessity of knowing the speed or vertical position at point B. There are attempts to relate potential and kinetic energy at points A and B, with some participants suggesting substitutions into energy equations.

Discussion Status

The discussion has seen participants offering guidance on using conservation of energy principles. There is an exploration of different energy states, but no explicit consensus has been reached regarding the final solution or approach.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the importance of ignoring friction and air resistance, while others emphasize the need to focus on energy conservation without needing specific values at point B.

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Homework Statement



A particle, starting from point A in the drawing (the height at A is 3.00 m), is projected down the curved runway. Upon leaving the runway at point B, the particle is traveling straight upward and reaches a height of 7.53 above the floor before falling back down. Ignoring friction and air resistance, find the speed of the particle at point A.

Ok the picture looks like this (I apologize for the slightly craptastic drawing):

o <--ball (at 7.53 m)

^
| A (3.00 m)
| /
*B* /
L___/

Homework Equations



Conservation of energy
PE = mgh
KE = (1/2)mv^2


The Attempt at a Solution



I started off with the basic equations of kinematics (like finding displacement based on v0 and vf) only to be told "You do not need to know the speed or vertical position of the particle at point B in order to solve this problem." Therefore, I am clueless where to go from here.
 
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Use conservation of mechanical energy.
 
You almost have it solved.

PE(A) + KE(A) = PE(B) + KE(B)

Substitute the equations you mentioned with the appropriate values and solve for v at A.
 
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Ef = E0. So either mgh0=mghf or .5mv0^2=.5mvf^2
Mass is the same in both, so
.5v0^2=.5vf^2 or
gh0=ghf

.5mvf^2 + mghf = .5mv0^2 + mgh0
removing the constant m
.5vf^2 + ghf = .5v0^2 + gh0
.5*0 + -9.8*7.53 = .5*v0^2 + -9.8*3
-44.394 = .5v0^2
88.788 = v0^2
v = 9.423

Thank you!
 

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