Projectile Motion - Equivalent javelin throw performed on the moon

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The discussion revolves around determining the equivalent distance of a javelin throw on the moon, given a release angle of 35 degrees. The problem involves concepts from projectile motion and gravitational effects on different celestial bodies.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants express uncertainty about the lack of specific velocity or range data for the projectile. There is a suggestion that the range on the moon could be six times that on Earth due to the difference in gravitational acceleration. Some participants question whether this assumption is overly simplistic. Others propose deriving an expression for the range to validate or challenge this conjecture.

Discussion Status

Some guidance has been offered regarding deriving an expression for the range of the projectile, assuming the same launch velocity on both Earth and the moon. Participants are exploring the implications of drag and resistance on the javelin's performance in different atmospheres, with varying opinions on the relevance of these factors to the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted lack of specific information regarding the initial velocity of the javelin, which may impact the analysis. The discussion also touches on the potential effects of atmospheric drag, particularly in relation to the optimal launch angle for different environments.

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Homework Statement


Experts recommend a release angle of 35 degrees for javelin throwing, use this as the release angle. Determine what the length of the equivalent throw on the moon would be. Clearly communicate the procedure you followed, and fully justify your answer.


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The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not too sure about the information provided, as it hasn't given a velocity or a range of the projectile. But I guess a general rule for the conversion between a throw on Earth and its equivalent on the moon can still be determined?
I have read some solutions which say that the range will just be six times whatever it was on Earth, as the moon's gravity is approx. 1/6 of Earth's gravity.
I don't know whether it's just me overthinking, but that sounds way too simple!
 
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rachel1234 said:

Homework Statement


Experts recommend a release angle of 35 degrees for javelin throwing, use this as the release angle. Determine what the length of the equivalent throw on the moon would be. Clearly communicate the procedure you followed, and fully justify your answer.


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The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not too sure about the information provided, as it hasn't given a velocity or a range of the projectile. But I guess a general rule for the conversion between a throw on Earth and its equivalent on the moon can still be determined?
I have read some solutions which say that the range will just be six times whatever it was on Earth, as the moon's gravity is approx. 1/6 of Earth's gravity.
I don't know whether it's just me overthinking, but that sounds way too simple!

Hi rachel1234, Welcome to Physics Forums.

You should be able to derive an expression for the range of the projectile which will allow you to prove or disprove your conjecture. Assume that the javelin is launched with the same velocity V in both cases, and that the accelerations due to gravity are ##g_e## and ##g_m##.
 
What gneil said.

Write the equation for the distance on earth. It will contain g. Replace g with 1/6 g.
 
Okay, I think I'm alright with that part now. Thank you!
Also, would I have to discuss the effects of drag, resistance, etc.? The javelin is already a rather streamlined design to reduce the effects of such forces.
 
35 degrees is, presumably, optimal because of the drag in Earth's atmosphere. On the moon, 45 degrees is likely much better, but you're told to use 35. In principle, you could use the optimality of 35 degrees to deduce something about the drag on Earth, and adjust for the lack of drag on the moon. But I suspect that's way beyond the intent of the question.
 

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