Projectile motion finding distance

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The problem involves projectile motion, specifically calculating the distance a rock launched from a height of 12m will travel before hitting the ground. The rock is launched at a speed of 27m/s at an angle of 39 degrees above the horizontal.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the decomposition of the initial velocity into vertical and horizontal components. There are attempts to determine the time of flight, with some questioning the use of the height of 12m in the calculations. The validity of the equations being used is also debated.

Discussion Status

Some participants are exploring different equations related to vertical motion and questioning how to incorporate the initial height into their calculations. There is a focus on clarifying the meaning of variables in the equations being discussed, particularly regarding the initial height and the height at which the rock hits the ground.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of projectile motion equations and the implications of the initial height. There is uncertainty regarding the correct formulation of the equations and how to apply them to the problem at hand.

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Homework Statement


King Arthur's knights use a catapult to launch a rock from their vantage point on top of the castle wall, 12m above the moat. The rock is launched at a speed of 27m/s and an angle of 39∘ above the horizontal. How far from the castle wall does the launched rock hit the ground?

Homework Equations


sin(theta)
cos(theta)
x=1/2at^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I found the Vy and Vx components. To find time you see how long it reaches to the peak so I divided Vy/10? I found out time was t=1.69s (probably wrong) Then right there I'm stuck. I don't know what to do with the 12m either. I think I'm on the right track but maybe I'm just wrong.
 
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Do you have an equation for y? That would be the key in incorporating the information about 12m.
 
ruso said:
Do you have an equation for y? That would be the key in incorporating the information about 12m.

do you mean the y=Vy(t)-1/2at^2? so if that's the case do you plug in 12 into y? and you are solving for t?
 
Coffeelover said:
do you mean the y=Vy(t)-1/2at^2? so if that's the case do you plug in 12 into y? and you are solving for t?

Did you get that equation from your textbook? Doesn't really look correct unless you change what the meaning of y is.

The way you have your equation, it seems like it should be Δy = Vy(t) - 1/2at^2 or y - y0 = Vy(t) - 1/2at^2, where y is the height at time t and y0 is your initial height.
 
ruso said:
Did you get that equation from your textbook? Doesn't really look correct unless you change what the meaning of y is.

The way you have your equation, it seems like it should be Δy = Vy(t) - 1/2at^2 or y - y0 = Vy(t) - 1/2at^2, where y is the height at time t and y0 is your initial height.
I was talking it over with my friend and he gave that equation. I don't understand what you're trying to solve for in that equation.
 
Coffeelover said:
I was talking it over with my friend and he gave that equation. I don't understand what you're trying to solve for in that equation.

Well, you want to know at what time t the rock the hits the ground, as it is a necessary part in finding your final answer: "How far from the castle wall does the launched rock hit the ground?"

You can't solve for t unless you have an equation for the height of the projectile (y - y0 = Vy(t) - 1/2at^2). If you know your starting height and the height at which you want to find t, you can solve for t using that equation if you keep in mind what y and y0 is in the equation.
 
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