Projectile motion, finding initial velocity

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The problem involves projectile motion, specifically determining the initial velocity of a rock thrown from a height of 1 meter at a 35-degree angle. The rock's position at a horizontal distance of 64 meters is given as a height of 29 meters.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the equations of motion used to relate the initial velocity to the rock's trajectory. There are attempts to express the time of flight in terms of the initial velocity and to set up equations for both horizontal and vertical motion. Some participants question the correctness of a specific constant used in the calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the calculations. There is a recognition of a potential error in the constants used, and one participant has acknowledged a correction in their approach. Guidance has been offered regarding maintaining symbolic expressions until the final steps of the calculations.

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Participants note discrepancies between their calculated results and the expected answer from the textbook, indicating a need for further clarification on the setup and assumptions in the problem.

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Homework Statement


A rock is thrown from a 1 meter height with a 35 degrees angle with horizontal. At x=64 m, its height is y=29 m. Find it's initial velocity.


Homework Equations



x=x_{{0}}+v_{{{\it x0}}}t+ 0.5\,a_{{x}}{t}^{2}
y=y_{{0}}+v_{{{\it y0}}}t+ 0.5\,a_{{y}}{t}^{2}

The Attempt at a Solution


Let F = initial velocity
then Vx0 = F cos 35
Vy0 = F sin 35
x=x_{{0}}+v_{{{\it x0}}}t+ 0.5\,a_{{x}}{t}^{2}
64=F\cos \left( 35 \right) t
t=64\,{\frac {1}{F\cos \left( 35 \right) }}

y=y_{{0}}+v_{{{\it y0}}}t+ 0.5\,a_{{y}}{t}^{2}
29=1+64\,\tan \left( 35 \right) - 10035.20000\,{\frac {1}{{F}^{2}<br /> \left( \cos \left( 35 \right) \right) ^{2}}}
solving for F gives 102 m/s
the answer in the book is 42 m/s


sorry i am new to latex
 
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Hi fishingspree2,

fishingspree2 said:

Homework Statement


A rock is thrown from a 1 meter height with a 35 degrees angle with horizontal. At x=64 m, its height is y=29 m. Find it's initial velocity.


Homework Equations



x=x_{{0}}+v_{{{\it x0}}}t+ 0.5\,a_{{x}}{t}^{2}
y=y_{{0}}+v_{{{\it y0}}}t+ 0.5\,a_{{y}}{t}^{2}

The Attempt at a Solution


Let F = initial velocity
then Vx0 = F cos 35
Vy0 = F sin 35
x=x_{{0}}+v_{{{\it x0}}}t+ 0.5\,a_{{x}}{t}^{2}
64=F\cos \left( 35 \right) t
t=64\,{\frac {1}{F\cos \left( 35 \right) }}

y=y_{{0}}+v_{{{\it y0}}}t+ 0.5\,a_{{y}}{t}^{2}
29=1+64\,\tan \left( 35 \right) - 10035.20000\,{\frac {1}{{F}^{2}<br /> \left( \cos \left( 35 \right) \right) ^{2}}}
solving for F gives 102 m/s
the answer in the book is 42 m/s


sorry i am new to latex

The number 10035.2 in the above equation does not look right to me.
 
sorry the calculation was made using 20070.4 i don't know how the 10035.2 showed up

i get 102m/s using 20070.4 and it is not correct according to the book
 
fishingspree2 said:
sorry the calculation was made using 20070.4 i don't know how the 10035.2 showed up

i get 102m/s using 20070.4 and it is not correct according to the book

I'm not getting 102m/s using 20070.4; can you show the details about how you get 102m/s?
 
I sorted out the constant. Thanks alphysicist.

It is usually a good idea to keep your expressions symbolic until the very end.

Show us how you are getting 102m/s.
 

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