Projectile Motion: Finding Maximum Height with Mechanics and Gravitation

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The problem involves a particle projected from the Earth's surface with an initial speed, seeking to find the maximum height attained. The context includes concepts from mechanics and gravitation, specifically addressing the effects of gravitational force as the particle ascends.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster presents two approaches: one based on mechanics using kinetic and potential energy, and another based on gravitational potential energy considering the radius of the Earth. Questions arise regarding the validity of these approaches, particularly in light of varying gravitational acceleration at high altitudes.

Discussion Status

Participants engage in exploring the implications of the initial velocity on the maximum height and the changing gravitational force. Some suggest that the mechanics approach may not be appropriate due to the variable nature of gravity at high altitudes, while others indicate that the gravitational approach accounts for this change. There is a recognition of differing interpretations without a clear consensus on the correct method.

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The discussion highlights the need to consider the effects of altitude on gravitational acceleration, which may influence the approaches taken to solve the problem. The original poster expresses uncertainty about which method yields the correct result.

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Homework Statement


A particle is projected from the surface of the Earth with an initial speed of 4km/s. Find the max. height attained by the particle. Radius of Earth = 6400 km and g=9.8 m/s2


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I have two approaches to this problem.

1)Mechanics-
Since gravitational force is conservative, we have
0.5mv2 = mgh
On solving, h = 816 km

2)Gravitation-
On the surface of earth, gravitational potential energy is -gmr , where m is the mass of the body and r is the radius of earth.

At a height h, its potential energy is -gmr2/(r+h)
0.5mv2 - gmr = -gmr2/(r+h)
h=Rv2/(2gr-v2)
On solving, h = 935 km

I don't understand which approach is correct. Please help!
 
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since the initial velocity is high the object is going to reach a very high spot... And at such heights there's a 'effective' change in g. So your mechanics approach would be wrong as the acceleration would be variable.
 
i think you have to include this change in g in your gravitational approach too..
 
Thanks dude! I got it,
in gravitational approach the change in accln. due to gravity is already included..
 
your welcome :smile:
 

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