Projectile Que HELP- Finding Launch Angles

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves projectile motion, specifically determining the launch angles for a stream of water directed at a window from a fire hose. The scenario includes a fixed height and distance, with the nozzle speed provided.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the angles by using equations of motion but encounters a complex equation involving trigonometric functions. They explore different methods, including analyzing the time to reach maximum height.
  • Some participants suggest manipulating the equation to express it in terms of trigonometric identities, questioning the need to rewrite certain terms.
  • Another participant expresses a need for assistance in solving a derived equation related to the angles.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and suggestions for rewriting equations. There is no explicit consensus on a method, but various approaches are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of the problem's parameters, including the fixed height and distance to the window, and the requirement to find two launch angles. There is a noted complexity in the equations being derived.

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Homework Statement



A fire fighter directs a stream of water from a fire hose into the window of a
burning building. The window is 20.0 m above the level of the nozzle and 60.0 m
away. The hose produces a jet of water at a constant nozzle speed of V0 = 30.0 m/s.
The fire fighter can control the angle θ that the water is aimed at by moving the
nozzle with her hands.

(a) The fire fighter discovers that there are exactly two angles θ that she can hold
the hose for which the water gets into the window. What are the two angles?


Homework Equations



Y1=Y0 + V0y(t) - g/2(t)^2
X1=X0 + V0x(t)
V0x = Vcos(θ)
V0y = Vsin(θ)
etc.

The Attempt at a Solution



Before getting into any calculations, I know that the angles are θ and (90-θ). That is, at these two angles, the firefighter will shoot the same height. Once I find out one angle, I will be able to get the other. But the problem is that I can't find even one θ.

First, I wrote down equations of projectile motion in the x-direction and in the y-direction. But I ended up getting a complicated equation involving both cos^2(θ) and tan(θ) that I can't solve. Then, I attempted the question in a different way. I tried to find the time it takes the water stream to reach the maximum height, and the time it takes the water stream to travel from the maximum height to the window. As you can see on the sheet, my equations involve both θ and t.

Is there a way that I can get rid of the t variable? Or what else should I do?

Please shed light! I've spent two hours writing over seven sheets w/ no result.

Thanks in advance!
 

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Welcome to PF!

Hi lavenderbaby! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)
lavenderbaby said:
… But I ended up getting a complicated equation involving both cos^2(θ) and tan(θ) that I can't solve. Then, I attempted the question in a different way. I tried to find the time it takes the water stream to reach the maximum height, and the time it takes the water stream to travel from the maximum height to the window. …

Yes, you got A/cos2θ + Btanθ + C = 0 …

just multiply it throughout by cos2θ,

then use standard trigonometric identities to write it as a combination of cos2θ and sin2θ,

then use another trigonometric identity to write that as cos(2θ + λ), for some λ. :wink:

(and no, finding the maximum height is never going to help)
 


Hi tiny-tim, thanks for your prompt reply! But in order to write it as a combo of cos and sin, do i need to rewrite the tan in terms of sin/cos first? I'm not really sure how that is going to give me a combo of sin and cos...any more hints?



tiny-tim said:
Hi lavenderbaby! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)


Yes, you got A/cos2θ + Btanθ + C = 0 …

just multiply it throughout by cos2θ,

then use standard trigonometric identities to write it as a combination of cos2θ and sin2θ,

then use another trigonometric identity to write that as cos(2θ + λ), for some λ. :wink:

(and no, finding the maximum height is never going to help)
 
Not cosθ and sinθ, cos2θ and sin2θ.

cos2θtanθ = … ? :smile:
 
hi! I too require help.

I got as far as: 5+5cos(2\Theta) = 15sin(2\Theta) + a

I'm not sure how to solve this :/
 

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