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The discussion centers on calculating the initial speed of a projectile, specifically a spear thrown by Wayne Brian at a distance of 201.24 meters and an angle of 35.0 degrees. The relevant equations include horizontal and vertical velocity components, time of flight, and the relationship between distance and initial velocity. The final calculated initial speed (Vi) is determined to be 50.5 meters/second using the equation Delta X = Vi(Cosine Theta)*(2(Vi*Sine Theta)/(Acceleration Y)). The participants confirm the accuracy of the calculation and emphasize the importance of understanding the underlying physics concepts.

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Wayne Brian threw a spear a distance of 201.24 meters. Suppose he threw the spear at a 35.0 degree angle with respect to the horizontal. What was the initial speed of the spear?

Data Known-
Delta X: 201.24 m
Theta (angle): 35.0 degrees
Acceleration (Y): -9.81 meters/seconds/seconds

Equations-
Velocity(Vx)=Vi(Cosine Theta)
Velocity(Vy)=Vi(Sine Theta)
Time= (Delta X)/Vi(Cosine Theta)
Delta Y= (Vi(Sine Theta)*(Time)) + (1/2(Acceleration Y)*(Time^2))
Delta X= Vi(Cosine Theta)*(2*(Vi*Sine Theta)/(Accelartion Y))


How would you solve the problem when all equations require the intial velocity, and there is none given?
 
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You know that (Δx)/(vicosθ) is the time required for the projectile to go up and then come back down again. (If it stayed in the air longer, it would have moved farther horizontally. The time spent in the air, along with the horizontal velocity, determines Δx).

You also know that this time spent in the air (t) is equal to twice the time required for the initial vertical velocity (visinθ) to decrease to zero. In other words, the time spent in the air is twice the time spent reaching the maximum height.

So, now you have two equations, and two unknowns (t and vi). You can therefore solve the problem.
 
Thanks for your response, but I was told by a friend that I could use this equation...

Delta X= Vi(Cosine Theta)*(2(Vi*Sine Theta)/(Acceleration Y))

He said that I would just simplify this equation and plug in the values that I have given to me. Then he said I would just solve for Vi.

So, it ends up looking like this...

201.24 = ((2Vi^2)*(Cos 35)(Sin 35))/(9.81)
(201.24*9.81)/(Cos 35)(Sin 35) = 2Vi^2
Square Root ((201.24*9.81)/2(Cos 35)(Sin 35)) = Vi
Vi= 50.5 meters/seconds

Does this look right?
 
sprtsgy0372 said:
Thanks for your response, but I was told by a friend that I could use this equation...

Delta X= Vi(Cosine Theta)*(2(Vi*Sine Theta)/(Acceleration Y))

Yeah. That's because the part in red is equal to t. In other words, what you have there is what you would have ended up with if you had combined the two equations that I told you to use in my response. Our advice is consistent, the difference is, your friend did half the work for you by using the second equation that I gave you to solve for t in terms of vi, and then plugging that into the first equation I gave you, leading to the result quoted above. Of course, it would have been much better if you had arrived at that result yourself. :wink:
 
Okay, thanks for you're help though. I just have a little trouble understanding things when I can't visualize them on a board, because I'm definitely a person who has to see things to understand them. So, thanks again.
 

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