How to Prove Distributive Laws for 3D Vector Cross Products?

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The discussion focuses on proving the distributive laws for 3D vector cross products, specifically p x (q + r) = p x q + p x r and p x (q x r) = (p x q) x r. Participants emphasize the importance of understanding the cross product and its properties, noting that it is not associative. There is confusion regarding the validity of the second equation, with some clarifying that it holds only under specific conditions. The conversation highlights the need to set up determinants and perform algebraic calculations to prove the first distributive law effectively. Understanding these concepts is crucial for correctly applying vector operations in mathematics.
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2 questions i have;

1. proove that; p x ( q + r ) = p x q + p x r

2. and p x ( q x r ) = ( p x q ) x r

where;

p = p1i + p2j + p3k
q = q1i + q2j + q3k
r = r1i + r2j + r3k
 
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Well, start with telling us what you know. What is the cross product between two vectors?
 
Sounds like homework.

Do you know the result of these expressions: i x i , i x j, etc... , ?
 
yes well so far for Qn1.
i have left handside p x (q + r) = (p1i + p2j + p3k)( (q1+ r1)i + (q2+ r2)j + (q3+ r3)k)

am i on the right track?
 
p x (q + r) = (p1i + p2j + p3k) x ( (q1+ r1)i + (q2+ r2)j + (q3+ r3)k)
Don't forget these important symbols.
 
thanks i don't know where to go from there
 
chocbizkt said:
thanks i don't know where to go from there

Can you now explicitly calculate the cross-product of two vectors?
 
Cross product is not associative, so i don't see how

px(qxr) = (pxq)xr
 
SeReNiTy is correct. \vec p\times(\vec q \times\vec r) = \vec (p\times\vec q) \times\vect only under some special circumstances. Tthe two forms are not equal in general. Google "vector triple product".
 
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true, i found out; px(qxr) = (pxq)xr
if you let q=p

then px(pxr)=(pxp)xr

such that (pxp)=0

therefore its not true statement
 
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chocbizkt said:
yes well so far for Qn1.
i have left handside p x (q + r) = (p1i + p2j + p3k) x ( (q1+ r1)i + (q2+ r2)j + (q3+ r3)k)

am i on the right track?

Just grind through that. By that I mean set up the determinant and perform the algebra.
 
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SeReNiTy said:
Cross product is not associative, so i don't see how

px(qxr) = (pxq)xr


Then wat is distributive law?:confused: :confused:

Vinodh
 
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Vinodh said:
Then wat is distributive law?:confused: :confused:

Vinodh

Number 1. in the original post is the distributivity (under addition) of the cross product: i.e. ax(b+c)=axb +axc
 

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