Proof: Everywhere Tangent to Curve?

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The discussion revolves around a mathematical proof involving a function v that depends on two variables, x and y, and its relationship with another function psi(x,y). The original poster seeks to demonstrate that the curves defined by psi(x,y) being constant are everywhere tangent to the vector field v.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the gradient of psi and the vector field v, discussing the implications of v being normal to surfaces of constant psi. There are attempts to connect the concept of stream functions to the problem, with some questioning the validity of certain assumptions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the relationships between the functions involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the properties of gradients and vector fields, but there is no explicit consensus on the proof's direction or completeness.

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There is mention of an "effort rule" in the forum, indicating that participants are expected to demonstrate their work or thought process, which may influence the nature of the responses provided.

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Proof: Everywhere Tangent to Curve??

If the function v depends on x and y, v(x,y) and we know there exists some function psi(x,y) such that
vx = partial w.r.t (y) of psi
vy= -(partial w.r.t (x) of psi)

show that the curves psi(x,y) = constant, are everywhere tangent to v.
 
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Usually you are supposed to show effort to get there, but I think this is a case where either you get it or you don't.

\nabla \psi is normal to surfaces of constant \psi and v\cdot \nabla \psi = 0. Fill in the rest.
 
DavidWhitbeck said:
Usually you are supposed to show effort to get there, but I think this is a case where either you get it or you don't.

\nabla \psi is normal to surfaces of constant \psi and v\cdot \nabla \psi = 0. Fill in the rest.

Thanks a bunch! I'm a new poster and did not know about the effort rule...I had worked on it but did not post what I had worked on.

I was trying to use the fact that if v = \nabla \times \psi,

then that would imply that \psi is a stream function, which in cartesian co-ordinates would reduce to:

Vx = \frac{\partial\psi}{\partial y} and Vy = - \frac{\partial\psi}{\partial x}

which is basically what the problem had to begin with. Then, since I know that \psi (x,y) is a stream function, doesn't it have to be tangent to v by virtue of the fact that its a streamline?
 
Are you trying to curl a scalar field??
 
oh right...i overlooked that part. thanks!
 
so basically v. \nabla\psi = 0 which proves that v and \nabla\psi are perpendicular (since their dot product is 0) and so \psi must be tangent to v
 

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