Proof of Cauchy Integral formula

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The discussion revolves around the proof of the Cauchy Integral formula, focusing on the implications of using different contour paths in the integral and the properties of analytic functions. Participants explore the relationship between the paths used in the proof and the behavior of analytic functions in simply connected regions.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the substitution of $z={z}_{0} + re^{i\theta}$ changes the function $f(z)$ in the context of the original contour integral.
  • Another participant acknowledges the validity of using different paths in the proof, citing properties of analytic functions and providing an example to illustrate the point.
  • There is a discussion about whether all analytic functions are conservative in simply connected regions, with references to the Cauchy-Riemann equations.
  • Participants explore the concept of path independence in integrals of analytic functions and the implications of using convenient paths for integration.
  • One participant introduces the idea of homotopic curves and their relevance to the invariance of integration, suggesting a deeper theoretical justification for the techniques used in the proof.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express some agreement on the properties of analytic functions and their implications for contour integrals, but there remains uncertainty regarding the specifics of path independence and the technical reasons behind the removal of certain parameters in the integrals.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the need for a deeper understanding of concepts like homotopic curves and the implications of analytic functions being conservative, indicating that some assumptions and definitions may require further clarification.

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Hi, looking at a proof of Cauchy Integral formula, I have (at least) one question, starting from the step below

$ \int_{{C}}^{}\frac{f(z)}{z-{z}_{0}} \,dz - \int_{{C}_{2}}\frac{f(z)}{z-{z}_{0}} \,dz = 0 $ , where $ {C}_{2}$ is the smaller path around the singularity at $ {z}_{0} $

Let $z={z}_{0} + re^{i\theta} $

Then $ \int_{{c}_{2}}^{}\frac{f(z)}{z-{z}_{0}} \,dz = \int_{{c}_{2}}^{}\frac{f({z}_{0} + re^{i\theta})}{re^{i\theta}}ire^{i\theta}\,dz $

Letting r->0 gives $ = if({z}_{0})\int_{{C}_{2}}^{} \,d\theta =2\pi i f({z}_{0}) $

I follow all that (hope I explain this well enough) - but after letting $z={z}_{0} + re^{i\theta} $, isn't this now different to the f(z) of the original contour? We let r tend to 0 for $ {C}_{2}$ , but C is some larger R?
 
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ognik said:
... but after letting $z={z}_{0} + re^{i\theta} $, isn't this now different to the f(z) of the original contour? We let r tend to 0 for $ {C}_{2}$ , but C is some larger R?
Yes, you are right, but any proof of the Cauchy's integral formula will use several and true properties. A silly but perhaps clarifying example:

If $f(x)=x,$ then $\displaystyle\int_{-2}^2f(x)\;dx=\int_{-1}^1f(x)\;dx=0,$ however $[-2,2]$ is larger than $[-1,1].$
 
Ah, what I was forgetting is that Cauchy's Integral theorem also shows that analytic functions within the simply connected region are path independent.

1. So all analytic functions will be conservative? This is also shown by the Cauchy-Riemann equations?

2. Random thought - are all real analytic functions conservative?

3. Please check my understanding - the 'starting step' I used, shows that it doesn't matter if the paths C and $C_{2}$ are of different lengths (radii). Therefore we can use any convenient path for the inner path, and it must be a path that allows us to remove the radius of that path from the equation?

(This is my second pass through the material, picking up on stuff that didn't sink in completely the first time :-))
 
ognik said:
So all analytic functions will be conservative?
Yes, on simply connected regions.
This is also shown by the Cauchy-Riemann equations?
Right.

Random thought - are all real analytic functions conservative?

If I understand your question, if $f:[a,b]\to \mathbb{R}$ is analytic, then $f$ has a primitive $F,$ hence $\displaystyle\int_a^bf(x)\;dx=F(b)-F(a).$ In that sense, we can say that $f$ is conservative.

Therefore we can use any convenient path for the inner path, and it must be a path that allows us to remove the radius of that path from the equation?
It seems to me that you are only talking about a technical reason, for example the possibility of removing the radius when computing an integral. There is a deeper and theoric reason: the invariance of integration on homtopic curves.

(This is my second pass through the material, picking up on stuff that didn't sink in completely the first time :-))
Third time's a charm. :)
 
Fernando Revilla said:
It seems to me that you are only talking about a technical reason, for example the possibility of removing the radius when computing an integral. There is a deeper and theoric reason: the invariance of integration on homtopic curves.

You are right and I hadn't even heard of holotropic curves, after some browsing I now have a vague idea of it and yes - that seems a big part of the justification for the technique, loosing the R is just a mathematical convenience. Thanks again.
 

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