Proof of Chain Rule: Understanding the Limits

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The discussion centers on the proof of the Chain Rule in calculus, focusing on the limits involved in the proof and addressing specific doubts related to the continuity and differentiability of functions. Participants explore the implications of the definitions and the behavior of functions as variables approach certain values.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether ##\lim_{h \to{0}}{E(k)}=\lim_{k \to{0}}{E(k)}##, suggesting a potential misunderstanding of the relationship between the limits.
  • Another participant asserts that ##\lim_{h \to 0} E(k) = E(k)##, arguing that ##E(k)## does not depend on ##h##.
  • A participant expresses gratitude for the clarification provided regarding the limits.
  • A question is raised about why ##f'(g(x))## remains unchanged in the limit process, with one participant explaining that it does not involve ##h## and thus is unaffected as ##h## approaches 0.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit some agreement on the nature of the limits discussed, but there is an initial uncertainty regarding the relationship between ##\lim_{h \to{0}}{E(k)}## and ##\lim_{k \to{0}}{E(k)}##. The discussion reflects differing interpretations of the limits involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express doubts about specific steps in the proof, particularly concerning the continuity of ##E(k)## and the behavior of ##f'(g(x))## during the limit process. These points remain unresolved and highlight the complexity of the proof.

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I've got a proof of the Chain Rule, but basic questions about basic steps
First I quote the text, and then the attempts to solve the doubts:

"Proof of the Chain Rule

Be ##f## a differentiable function at the point ##u=g(x)##, with ##g## a differentiable function at ##x##. Be the function ##E(k)## described this way:
$$E(0)=0$$
$$E(k)=\dfrac{f(u+k)-f(u)}{k}-f'(u)\qquad\mbox{if}\;k\neq 0$$

By definition of derivative, ##\lim_{k \to{0}}{E(k)}=f'(u)-f'(u)=0=E(0)##, so ##E(k)## is continuous in ##k=0##. Also, be ##k=0## or not, we have

$$f(u+k)-f(u)=(f'(u)+E(k))k$$

Be now ##u=g(x)## and ##k=g(x+h)-g(x)##, so ##u+k=g(x+h)##; we obtain

$$f(g(x+h))-f(g(x))=(f'(g(x))+E(k))(g(x+h)-g(x))$$

As ##g## is differentiable at ##x##, ##\lim_{h \to{0}}{[g(x+h)-g(x)]/h}=g'(x)##. Also, ##g## is continuous at ##x##, by Theorem 1
THEOREM 1 Being differentiable means being continous

If ##f## is differentiable at ##x##, we know it exists

$$\displaystyle\lim_{h \to{0}}{\dfrac{f(x+h)-f(x)}{h}}=f'(x)$$

Using the rules of limits (Theorem 2 of section 1.2)

Rules for limits

If ##\lim_{x \to a}{f(x)}=L##, ##\lim_{x \to a}{g(x)}=M##, and ##k## is a constant, then

1. Limit of a sum: ##\displaystyle\lim_{x \to{a}}{[f(x)+g(x)]}=L+M##
2. Limit of a subtraction: ##\displaystyle\lim_{x \to{a}}{[f(x)+g(x)]}=L+M##
3. Limit of a product: ##\displaystyle\lim_{x \to{a}}{f(x)g(x)}=LM##
4. Limit of a function multiplied by a constant: ##\displaystyle\lim_{x \to{a}}{kf(x)}=kL##
5. Limit of a division: ##\displaystyle\lim_{x \to a}{\dfrac{f(x)}{g(x)}}=\dfrac{L}{M}\qquad\mbox{if}\;M\neq 0##
If ##m## is an integer and ##n## a positive integer, then
6. Limit of a power: ##\displaystyle\lim_{x \to{a}}{[f(x)]^{m/n}}=L^{m/n}##, whenever ##L>0## if ##n## is even, and ##L\neq 0## if ##m<0##
If ##f(x)\geq g(x)## at an interval that contains ##a## inside, then
7. Order preservation: ##L\geq M##

we have

$$\lim_{h \to{0}}{f(x+h)-f(x))}=\lim_{h \to{0}}{\left (\dfrac{f(x+h)-f(x)}{h}\right)(h)}=(f'(x))(0)=0$$

This is equivalent to ##\lim_{h \to{0}}{f(x+h)=f(x)}##, and means ##f## is continous.So ##\lim_{h \to{0}}{E(k)}=\lim_{h \to{0}}{(g(x+h)-g(h)=0}##. As ##E## is continuous in 0, ##\lim_{h \to{0}}{E(k)}=\lim_{k \to{0}}{E(k)}=E(0)=0##. This way,

$$\dfrac{d}{dx}f(g(x))=\displaystyle\lim_{h \to{0}}{\dfrac{f(g(x+h))-f(g(x))}{h}}$$

$$ \qquad\qquad\qquad=\displaystyle\lim_{h \to{0}}{(f'(g(x)+E(k))\dfrac{g(x+h)-g(x)}{h}}$$

$$\qquad\qquad\qquad=(f'(g(x)+0)g(x)=f'(g(x))g'(x)$$

As we wanted to prove."

Doubts:

-¿##\lim_{h \to{0}}{E(k)}=\lim_{k \to{0}}{E(k)}##?

Attempt: ##\lim_{h \to{0}}{E(k)}=\displaystyle\lim_{h \to{0}}{\dfrac{E(k+h)-E(k)}{h}}=\displaystyle\lim_{k \to{0}}{\dfrac{E(k)-E(0)}{k-0}}## (Bad, I guess)

-¿Why ##f'(g(x))## remains the same at the last step?:

$$ \qquad\qquad\qquad=\displaystyle\lim_{h \to{0}}{(f'(g(x)+E(k))\dfrac{g(x+h)-g(x)}{h}}$$

$$\qquad\qquad\qquad=(f'(g(x)+0)g(x)=f'(g(x))g'(x)$$

Attempt: are different variables

Greetings to everybody, have a nice St Joseph's Day!
 
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mcastillo356 said:
-¿limh→0E(k)=limk→0E(k)?
No. ##\lim_{h \to 0} E(k) = E(k)##, since E(k) doesn't involve h in any way.

For the same reason, if f(x) = 2x + 3, ##\lim_{z \to 19} f(x) = f(x)##
 
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mcastillo356 said:
-¿Why f′(g(x)) remains the same at the last step?:
For the same reason as before -- f'(g(x)) doesn't involve h, so in the limit process (with h approaching 0), f'(g(x)) is unaffected.
 
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