Proof of n(n-1)/2 as the Number of 2-Subsets in an n-Set

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The discussion centers on proving that the number of 2-subsets of an n-set A equals n(n-1)/2. Participants explore the use of mathematical induction as a method for this proof, along with alternative reasoning related to combinations.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests proving by induction that the number of 2-subsets of an n-set A equals n(n-1)/2.
  • Another participant provides a fast and loose inductive proof, explaining that for a set of size n+1, the number of 2-subsets can be derived from the inductive hypothesis.
  • A question is raised about whether the statement refers to the number of 2-element subsets obtained from a set of n elements.
  • Some participants note that the reasoning involves considering combinations of elements, where the first element combines with n-1 others, the second with n-2, and so on.
  • There is a clarification that while a direct formula is evident, the original request was for an inductive proof, which was provided by another participant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and appropriateness of using induction for this proof, with some supporting the inductive approach while others suggest alternative reasoning. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best method to prove the statement.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the nature of subsets and the definitions of combinations are present but not explicitly stated. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps involved in the proof.

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Prove by induction that the number of 2-subsets of an n-set A equals n(n-1)/2.
 
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Ella087 said:
Prove by induction that the number of 2-subsets of an n-set A equals n(n-1)/2.

Not sure why you want to use induction to do this but here you go in a fast and loose manner:

Assume it's true for a set of size n. Examine a set of size n+1. Notice this set of size n+1 is just an n-set with a new element added to it. Call that new element 'A'. Now what does a 2-subset of the n+1-set look like? Either it has A or it doesn't. Thus, using our inductive hypothesis, we see there are:

[tex]\frac{n*(n-1)}{2} + n = \frac{(n+1)*n}{2}[/tex]

2-subsets. And that's exactly what we want to see.
 
you mean, considering a set of n elements the number of subsets with 2 elements obtained from that set is equal to n(n-1)/2?
 
if so, it is easy to see that the first combine with n-1 elements, the second with n-2 elements, and so on
 
al-mahed said:
if so, it is easy to see that the first combine with n-1 elements, the second with n-2 elements, and so on
Yes That gives a direct formula but what the poster needed was a step for an inductive proof which is what Rodigee gave since the new element (n+1) combines with the first n elements to form n more sets of two elements.
 
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