Proof of the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus.

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The discussion revolves around proving a foundational aspect of the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus (FToC), specifically the inequality \( L(f,P_{1}) \geq L(f,P) \) where \( P \subset P_{1} \) and \( P_{1} \) is a refinement of \( P \). Participants are exploring the implications of this inequality and the definitions of lower sums in the context of calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are examining the relationship between lower sums and their refinements, questioning how certain inequalities arise analytically. There is a focus on understanding the notation and the implications of specific definitions.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on notation and reasoning. Some have offered hints and clarifications, while others are still grappling with the underlying concepts and proofs. There is no explicit consensus yet, as participants are still exploring various interpretations and approaches.

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Participants have noted potential issues with notation and the need for clarity in definitions. There is also mention of the difficulty level of the exercise, suggesting it aligns with advanced calculus coursework.

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Hi all I'm currently working my way through proving the FToC by proving something that is a foundation for it. So I need to prove that;

L(f,P[itex]_{1}[/itex]) ≥ L(f,P) where P[itex]\subset[/itex]P[itex]_{1}[/itex] i.e where P[itex]_{1}[/itex] is a refinement of P.

So, Let P[itex]_{1}[/itex] = P [itex]\cup[/itex] {c} where c [itex]\in[/itex] [x[itex]_{k-1}[/itex],x[itex]_{k}[/itex]]

Let L' = inf{x|x [itex]\in[/itex] [x[itex]_{k-1}[/itex],c]}

Let L'' = inf{x|x[itex]\in[/itex]} [c,x[itex]_{k}[/itex]]

L = inf{x|x[itex]\in[/itex] [x[itex]_{k-1}[/itex],x[itex]_{k}[/itex]]}

So from this the next line is;

L'(c-x[itex]_{k-1}[/itex]) + L''(x[itex]_{k}[/itex]-c) ≥ L(x[itex]_{k}[/itex]-x[itex]_{k-1}[/itex])

Now this is the line I can't fully grasp. How was this line come up with? I can understand it from a geometrical/graphical/pictorial point of view, but from an analytic point of view I cannot.

So far this is what I have,

L' + L'' ≥ L

And If I multiply by the differences in the x-ordinates I still don't get the same line. Any help would be appreciated.

How exactly did that mystery line happen?
 
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I know what you mean, but I'm going to comment on your notation anyway.

Darth Frodo said:
Hi all I'm currently working my way through proving the FToC by proving something that is a foundation for it. So I need to prove that;

L(f,P[itex]_{1}[/itex]) ≥ L(f,P) where P[itex]\subset[/itex]P[itex]_{1}[/itex] i.e where P[itex]_{1}[/itex] is a refinement of P.

If you want to use LaTeX, then you should not just use LaTeX on each individual symbol, but rather on the whole line. So writing something like

Code:
L(f,P,[itеx]_{1}[/itеx]) ≥ L(f,P)

it is much handier (and much more aesthetic) to write

Code:
[itеx]L(f,P_1)\geq L(f,P)[itеx]

So, Let P[itex]_{1}[/itex] = P [itex]\cup[/itex] {c} where c [itex]\in[/itex] [x[itex]_{k-1}[/itex],x[itex]_{k}[/itex]]

Let L' = inf{x|x [itex]\in[/itex] [x[itex]_{k-1}[/itex],c]}

As you wrote it now, we have that ##L^\prime = x_{k-1}##. You should probably have written

[tex]L^\prime = inf \{ f(x)~\vert~x \in [x_{k-1},c]\}[/tex]

Same remark with the others.

Let L'' = inf{x|x[itex]\in[/itex]} [c,x[itex]_{k}[/itex]]

L = inf{x|x[itex]\in[/itex] [x[itex]_{k-1}[/itex],x[itex]_{k}[/itex]]}

So from this the next line is;

L'(c-x[itex]_{k-1}[/itex]) + L''(x[itex]_{k}[/itex]-c) ≥ L(x[itex]_{k}[/itex]-x[itex]_{k-1}[/itex])

As it is now, it is simply not true. Take [itex]f(x)=-1[/itex] and take [itex]x_k=0[/itex], ##c=1## and ##x_{k+1}=2##. Then ##L = L^\prime = L^{\prime\prime} = -1##. But

[tex]L^\prime + L^{\prime\prime} = -2 \leq -1 = L[/tex]
 
[itex]L^{'}[/itex]([itex]c-x_{k-1}[/itex]) = [itex](-1)[/itex][itex](1-2)[/itex] = 1

[itex]L^{''}[/itex]([itex]x_{k}-c[/itex]) = (-1)(0-1) = 1

[itex]L[/itex] = [itex](-1)[/itex][itex](x_{k}-[/itex][itex]x_{k-1}[/itex]) = -1(-2) = 2

[itex]1 + 1 ≥ 2[/itex]

Does it not hold?
 
Darth Frodo said:
[itex]L^{'}[/itex]([itex]c-x_{k-1}[/itex]) = [itex](-1)[/itex][itex](1-2)[/itex] = 1

[itex]L^{''}[/itex]([itex]x_{k}-c[/itex]) = (-1)(0-1) = 1

[itex]L[/itex] = [itex](-1)[/itex][itex](x_{k}-[/itex][itex]x_{k-1}[/itex]) = -1(-2) = 2

[itex]1 + 1 ≥ 2[/itex]

Does it not hold?

Oh, you meant that ##L(x_k - x_{k-1})## is a multiplication. I thought it was part of the notation. Makes sense then.

Here's a hint to prove it

[tex]L(x_k - x_{k-1}) = L(x_k-c) + L(c-x_{k-1})[/tex]
 
[itex]L(x_{k}-x_{k-1})[/itex] = [itex]L(x_{k}-c)[/itex] + [itex]L(c-x_{k-1})[/itex]

[itex]L ≤ L'[/itex] and [itex]L ≤ L''[/itex]

[itex]\Rightarrow[/itex] [itex]L(x_{k}-x_{k-1})[/itex] ≤ [itex]L''(x_{k}-c)[/itex] + [itex]L'(c-x_{k-1})[/itex]

This correct?
 
Yes. Be sure that you know how to prove ##L\leq L^\prime## though.
 
Hmm, that I don't know but i'll attempt it later and get back to you on it if I don't get it. Thanks for the help! Super as always!

BTW, would this be the kind of exercise one would expect from Spivak?
 
Darth Frodo said:
Hmm, that I don't know but i'll attempt it later and get back to you on it if I don't get it. Thanks for the help! Super as always!

BTW, would this be the kind of exercise one would expect from Spivak?

Yes. This is more of an exercise you would encounter in Spivak than in another calculus book. Those exercises tend to be difficult at first, but you get used to them pretty quickly.
 

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