Proof of Vector Equivalence: a‧b=a‧c

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The discussion revolves around the proof of a vector equivalence involving the dot product, specifically examining the condition under which the equality a·b = a·c implies that b = c, given that vector a is non-zero.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the implications of the equation a·(b - c) = 0 and question the validity of their attempts to derive conclusions from it. Some suggest considering counterexamples to challenge the initial assumption.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively questioning the assumptions behind the vector equivalence. Some have provided specific examples to illustrate their points, while others are seeking clarity on how to express their reasoning effectively.

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Participants note the importance of using specific vectors and dot products when constructing counterexamples, indicating a potential area of confusion regarding the generality of the statement being examined.

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1.Determine if it is true that for any vectors a, b, c such that
a is not equal to 0 and a‧b = a‧ c, then b = c.



i tried to let a‧b-a‧c=0
then a‧(b-c)=0
but i found it's not meaningful
so how can i solve it =[
thz
 
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Try to think of an example where it's not true.
 
radou said:
Try to think of an example where it's not true.
the method i have tried is really useless?
 
It's not useless, it just doesn't tell you anything.

You can solve this by finding a counterexample.
 
radou said:
It's not useless, it just doesn't tell you anything.

You can solve this by finding a counterexample.
assume b is not equal to c
l.h.s=a‧b
=...
should i express the dot product?
 
let a = (1, 0, 0), b = (1, 0, 1), c = (1, 2, 1).

What does a.(b - c) equal?
 
radou said:
let a = (1, 0, 0), b = (1, 0, 1), c = (1, 2, 1).

What does a.(b - c) equal?
zero =[
btw,when we want some example for conradiction,we should use some real number to think about it first?
 
It doesn't matter what you use.

If you're not talking about a specific set of vectors and a specific dot product, and if you assume that, for any non-zero a, and any b, c, the implication a.(b - c) = 0 ==> b = c holds (which is equivalent to a.b = a.c ==> b = c) then it doesn't matter which vector space and dot product you chose to construct your counterexample.

So, we found an example where a.(b - c) = 0, when b doesn't equal c.
 
radou said:
It doesn't matter what you use.

If you're not talking about a specific set of vectors and a specific dot product, and if you assume that, for any non-zero a, and any b, c, the implication a.(b - c) = 0 ==> b = c holds (which is equivalent to a.b = a.c ==> b = c) then it doesn't matter which vector space and dot product you chose to construct your counterexample.

So, we found an example where a.(b - c) = 0, when b doesn't equal c.
a.(b - c) = 0, when b doesn't equal c
this i'd thought once,but don't know how to express
anyway thank you very much :p
 

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