Proof: Permutations and Surjective Functions

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves finite nonempty sets X and Y, with the task of proving a relationship between the number of surjective functions from X to Y and the number of partitions of X into subsets. The original poster attempts to connect the concept of surjective functions with partitions and permutations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster discusses an attempt at induction but expresses uncertainty about the transition from n=k to n=k+1. They also consider the relationship between f(n, m) and permutations. Another participant suggests the idea of mapping from a partitioned version of X to Y, indicating a potential connection between partitions and surjective functions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of how partitions relate to surjective functions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the mapping process, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach to the proof.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes that they are before a lecture on combinations, which may limit their current understanding of relevant methods. There is also a mention of the conditions under which a function can be onto, highlighting the complexity of the problem.

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Homework Statement


Let X and Y be finite nonempty sets, |X|=m, |Y|=n≤m. Let f(n, m) denote the number of partitions of X into n subsets. Prove that the number of surjective functions X→Y is n!*f(n,m).

Homework Equations


I know a function is onto if and only if every element of Y is mapped to by an element of X. That is, for all y in Y, there is an x in X such that f(x)=y. Clearly if f is a function and n≤m, a function from X to Y can be onto (but it doesn't have to be, for instance, all of X could map to the same Y).


The Attempt at a Solution


I tried by induction, but got lost moving from n=k to n=k+1, so I'm not sure if that works. I think that f(n, m) has something to do with the number of ways to permute the elements of X... but not sure. This is before the lecture on combinations, so I'm not sure if we need to use that method.

Thanks in advance!
 
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Could it have something to do with creating a function from a partitioned version of X to Y?
 
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schaefera said:
Could it have something to do with creating a function from a partitioned version of X to Y?

Sure it could. You split X into subsets, each one of which maps into a unique element of Y. Then given a split (of which there are f(n,m)) you figure out how many ways there are to assign each subset to an element of Y. I don't think induction is really necessary here. Just explain it in words.
 

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