Proof that an even degree polynomial has a minimum

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The discussion revolves around proving that a polynomial of even degree has a minimum value on the real numbers, specifically focusing on the polynomial form $$p(x) = a_{2n} x^{2n} + ... + a_{1} x + a_{0}$$ where $$a_{2n} > 0$$. Participants are exploring the behavior of the polynomial as $$x$$ approaches positive and negative infinity to establish the existence of a minimum.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the necessity of proving that $$p(x)$$ approaches infinity as $$x$$ approaches both positive and negative infinity. There are attempts to rewrite the polynomial to analyze its leading term's dominance. Questions arise about the assumptions that can be made regarding limits and the behavior of lower-degree terms.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various participants providing insights and nudges towards proving the polynomial's behavior. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of limits and the properties of odd-degree derivatives, but no consensus has been reached on the assumptions that can be made.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the constraints of their homework rules, particularly regarding what can be assumed about limits and theorems related to polynomial behavior. There is an emphasis on the need for rigorous proof without taking certain properties for granted.

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Homework Statement


Let $$p(x) = a_{2n} x^{2n} + ... + a_{1} x + a_{0} $$ be any polynomial of even degree.
If $$ a_{2n} > 0 $$ then p has a minimum value on R.

Homework Equations


We say f has a minimum value "m" on D, provided there exists an $$x_m \in D$$ such that
$$ f(x) \geq f(x_m) = m $$

for all x in D.

The Attempt at a Solution


I know I should prove that p(x) goes to infinity on both sides, but I'm not sure how to start doing that.
I can rewrite $$p(x) = x^{2n} (a_{2n} + ... + \frac{a_1}{x^{2n-1}} + \frac{a_0}{x^{2n}}) $$

But I'm not sure how to prove that it goes to infinity. If I can do that I can use the definition of the minimum and the intermediate value theorem to prove that the minimum exists.
 
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Unless I'm missing something here--as in, if this isn't an assumption you can make--it's readily apparent that every term as you've written the polynomial will drop out except ##a_{2n}## as ##x \to \infty##.
 
axmls said:
Unless I'm missing something here--as in, if this isn't an assumption you can make--it's readily apparent that every term as you've written the polynomial will drop out except ##a_{2n}## as ##x \to \infty##.
Unfortunately that's not an assumption I can make, I have to prove everything.
 
B3NR4Y said:

Homework Statement


Let $$p(x) = a_{2n} x^{2n} + ... + a_{1} x + a_{0} $$ be any polynomial of even degree.
If $$ a_{2n} > 0 $$ then p has a minimum value on R.

Homework Equations


We say f has a minimum value "m" on D, provided there exists an $$x_m \in D$$ such that
$$ f(x) \geq f(x_m) = m $$

for all x in D.

The Attempt at a Solution


I know I should prove that p(x) goes to infinity on both sides, but I'm not sure how to start doing that.
I can rewrite $$p(x) = x^{2n} (a_{2n} + ... + \frac{a_1}{x^{2n-1}} + \frac{a_0}{x^{2n}}) $$

But I'm not sure how to prove that it goes to infinity. If I can do that I can use the definition of the minimum and the intermediate value theorem to prove that the minimum exists.

Remember, the limit of a sum is the sum of the limits of each individual term.

Can you show that a2nx2n → ∞ as x → ∞ ? Then work your way thru the terms of p(x) until you reach a0 .
 
SteamKing said:
Remember, the limit of a sum is the sum of the limits of each individual term.

Can you show that a2nx2n → ∞ as x → ∞ ? Then work your way thru the terms of p(x) until you reach a0 .

Here would be my issues with this:

1. can the OP assume said property of limits? (I presume he can--but you never know)

2. Are you sure this will work for negative infinity? After all, who's to say the odd-integer exponents don't drag down the even-integer exponent terms as ##x \to -\infty##? That'd be another thing to prove for the ##x < 0## case.
 
B3NR4Y said:

Homework Statement


Let $$p(x) = a_{2n} x^{2n} + ... + a_{1} x + a_{0} $$ be any polynomial of even degree.
If $$ a_{2n} > 0 $$ then p has a minimum value on R.

Homework Equations


We say f has a minimum value "m" on D, provided there exists an $$x_m \in D$$ such that
$$ f(x) \geq f(x_m) = m $$

for all x in D.

The Attempt at a Solution


I know I should prove that p(x) goes to infinity on both sides, but I'm not sure how to start doing that.
I can rewrite $$p(x) = x^{2n} (a_{2n} + ... + \frac{a_1}{x^{2n-1}} + \frac{a_0}{x^{2n}}) $$

But I'm not sure how to prove that it goes to infinity. If I can do that I can use the definition of the minimum and the intermediate value theorem to prove that the minimum exists.
p'(x) is an odd-degree polynomial with a positive leading coefficient. It will have to have at least one x-intercept where p' changes sign (hence p changes from decreasing to increasing or vice versa). Do you have any theorems you can invoke about odd-degree polynomials?
 
axmls said:
Here would be my issues with this:

1. can the OP assume said property of limits? (I presume he can--but you never know)

2. Are you sure this will work for negative infinity? After all, who's to say the odd-integer exponents don't drag down the even-integer exponent terms as ##x \to -\infty##? That'd be another thing to prove for the ##x < 0## case.
Beats me. Just trying to give the OP a nudge to do something. I usually write my name at the top of the paper when I get stumped.
 
Okay I think I am able to prove it using what SteamKing said, but I see what axmls means by some of the lower power terms may overcome the upper power terms. That's why I preferred writing it as $$p(x) = x^{2n} (a_{2n} + ... + \frac{a_1}{x^{2n-1}} + \frac{a_0}{x^2n} ) $$ it seems to show that $$a_{2n}$$ is the prevalent term. The only thing that sucks is I can't go limit by limit.
 
Perhaps you could show as well that ##\lim_{x \to \infty} \frac{1}{x^k} = 0## first for the case ##k=1##, then the rest of the terms follow easily from the squeeze theorem.

The only drawback would be if you can't assume, for instance, that the limit of the sum is the sum of the limits, or if you can't assume the squeeze theorem.

Those assumptions you can and can't make is what makes these difficult to work with.
 

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