Proof that hunting is for the birds

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The discussion revolves around a video depicting a bird hunting what appears to be a deer, with participants analyzing the species of the bird and the animal being hunted. The conversation includes various interpretations of the video, speculation about the animals involved, and humorous exchanges about hunting and regional bird species. The scope includes observational analysis, species identification, and light-hearted commentary.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest the bird is a golden eagle, while others propose it could be a juvenile chicken hawk or a harpy eagle, indicating uncertainty about the identification.
  • There is debate over whether the animal being hunted is a deer or a jackrabbit, with some arguing it looks like a small white-tailed deer and others claiming it resembles a jackrabbit or even a jackalope.
  • One participant notes that the size of the deer appears small, suggesting it could be a yearling rather than a fawn, while another counters that whitetail deer generally weigh too much for an eagle to hunt.
  • Some participants humorously engage in regional banter about accents and local wildlife, particularly regarding the chicken hawk and its prey.
  • There are multiple references to the video and its content, with participants sharing links and images to support their claims and observations.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the wing size of the bird, arguing that it could feasibly take down a small deer based on its wingspan.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the species of the bird or the animal being hunted, with multiple competing views and interpretations remaining throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Discussions about the size and weight of whitetail deer vary, with some participants noting geographical differences in deer size that may affect the plausibility of the hunting scenario depicted in the video.

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Interesting proof.
 
I got lost between the Q and the ED.
 
perhaps it is not obvious that you should click on the :bugeye:
 
Integral said:
perhaps it is not obvious that you should click on the :bugeye:

Hah! I never thought of doing that before.

His bird is almost as tough as my deer-hunting cat.
 
Ivan Seeking said:
Hah! I never thought of doing that before.

His bird is almost as tough as my deer-hunting cat.

pshh my hunts nwbs.
 
Integral said:
perhaps it is not obvious that you should click on the :bugeye:

Ah. Nice video.
 
Looks like a golden eagle and it's hunting a jack rabbit, not a deer.
 
Astronuc said:
Looks like a golden eagle and it's hunting a jack rabbit, not a deer.

strangest looking jackrabbit I have ever seen. I guess it could be a jackalope.
 
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OK - I stand corrected - it does look like a small white-tailed deer (based on neck and forelegs). I have seen large jack rabbits that do look like a small deer from a distance.
 
  • #11
Could be a harpy eagle, judging from the look of the crest in the final frames. Hard to tell, though.

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Nope! Just looked and a harpy has too much white. My memory from the movie was faulty.
 
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it looks like one of those miniature deer and an immature eagle ---if it was a full size deer, the deer would have higher and longer jumps, and wouldn't have been flung around so easily----




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That's quite interesting. Here in the state of South Jersey, we have a bird that goes by the name of chicken hawk, but I don't think that is its real name. I guess they live on squirrels and rabbits which are quite abundant here as well as other small mammals that I'm not aware of. Deer are abundant here too, but I don't think this bird is large enough to take down even a fawn.
 
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http://offthekuff.com/blog/misc/HenryChickenhawk.jpg

Henry Chickenhawk
 
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rewebster said:
Henry Chickenhawk
So you're saying that the bird in the film is a juvenile chicken hawk that has been bamboozled by Foghorn Leghorn into thinking that a deer is a chicken?
 
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well, the way the deer was running away, it looks chicken
 
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Integral said:
strangest looking jackrabbit I have ever seen. I guess it could be a jackalope.

It looks too big when compared to the jackalope in your livingroom.
 
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jimmysnyder said:
That's quite interesting. Here in the state of South Jersey, we have a bird that goes by the name of chicken hawk, but I don't think that is its real name. I guess they live on squirrels and rabbits which are quite abundant here as well as other small mammals that I'm not aware of. Deer are abundant here too, but I don't think this bird is large enough to take down even a fawn.

So has South Jersey finally seceded from North Jersey? :biggrin: Yeah, a rabbit is about the limit of what the chicken hawks can handle.

Cool video...never would have guessed I should click on the smiley either. :smile:
 
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Moonbear said:
So has South Jersey finally seceded from North Jersey?
Do you mean North Joisey?
 
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jimmysnyder said:
Do you mean North Joisey?

I think that's Nawth Joisey. Central Jersey is the only place in the state where people know how to speak properly. :biggrin: Afterall, you South Jersey folks think your kids color with crawns, while the rest of us know they're called crayons. :biggrin:
 
  • #22
Moonbear said:
Afterall, you South Jersey folks think your kids color with crawns, while the rest of us know they're called crayons.
First of all, we in South Jersey have no accent, everyone else does. Secondly, we don't color with crawns we write with them.
 
  • #23
I was thinking golden eagle too. It's bigger than a red-tail, and if it's not an eagle it's almost certainly some kind of buteo.

And that's a little fawn they released to its doom. In the initial frame you can see the bird on the guy's arm, so it's not so incredibly big. The deer is incredibly small!
 
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Chi Meson said:
I was thinking golden eagle too. It's bigger than a red-tail, and if it's not an eagle it's almost certainly some kind of buteo.

And that's a little fawn they released to its doom. In the initial frame you can see the bird on the guy's arm, so it's not so incredibly big. The deer is incredibly small!
It might not even be a Golden. There are eagles all over the world, and falconry is an ancient form of hunting, so this clip could have been shot anywhere. It may not even be a deer, but an antelope or some other small ungulate.
 
  • #25
Chi Meson said:
And that's a little fawn they released to its doom. In the initial frame you can see the bird on the guy's arm, so it's not so incredibly big. The deer is incredibly small!

The deer isn't that small. Whitetails don't get very big, and it looks like a whitetail. It could be a yearling, but it's not a fawn. That bird is pretty huge. If you pause the video on the first frame or two, you'll see that bird is about half the height of that guy (I don't know how he's holding such a large bird). I'm not sure if the bird really "bagged" the deer though. Definitely quite the tumble going on, but that could be because it got lucky catching the deer mid-air on a leap as it was running and knocking it off balance. That doesn't look all that different from the tumbles I took with sheep when I was first learning to catch them and only succeeded in knocking us both off-balance, but never actually caught them (they'd get up and run off while I was still brushing the muck off myself).
 
  • #26
Moonbear said:
The deer isn't that small. Whitetails don't get very big, and it looks like a whitetail. It could be a yearling, but it's not a fawn. That bird is pretty huge. If you pause the video on the first frame or two, you'll see that bird is about half the height of that guy (I don't know how he's holding such a large bird). I'm not sure if the bird really "bagged" the deer though. Definitely quite the tumble going on, but that could be because it got lucky catching the deer mid-air on a leap as it was running and knocking it off balance. That doesn't look all that different from the tumbles I took with sheep when I was first learning to catch them and only succeeded in knocking us both off-balance, but never actually caught them (they'd get up and run off while I was still brushing the muck off myself).
Ooh, Moonie! You're geographically challenged (little deer down your way). Mature whitetail does here are generally around 150#, and mature bucks run over 200# - way too big for an eagle to even consider. Even the fawns with spots on them up here are bigger than the little guy in the video. A yearling whitetail should be in the 100# range - again, way too big for an eagle to tackle. I realize that the farther south you go, the smaller (in general) the whitetails, but I can't imagine that a yearling whitetail anywhere in the US could be comparable in size to an eagle. I'd like to know where that was shot - I can't make out the language in the sound-track.
 
  • #27
ummm wtf?
how come no one thinks about the wing size. i shure its wing tip to tip is like 5ft if not more and that thing was at least 2 feet tall.

in my book that could easily take out a little deer.
**** my car does it all the time.
 
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Jackalope
http://www.jackalopelakeside.com/Images/Jackalope.jpg
 
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  • #30
Ivan Seeking said:
Jackalope
http://www.jackalopelakeside.com/Images/Jackalope.jpg
/wow! look at the rack on that rascal! How does he get into his burrow with them bones?
 
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