Proof that velocity of image by a plane mirror is negative of object

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the velocity of an object and the velocity of its image in a plane mirror setup. Participants are exploring the implications of object motion in different directions and how that affects the derived equations of motion.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the velocity relationship for a scenario where the object moves in the opposite direction, questioning their understanding of the mathematical concepts involved.
  • Some participants point out errors in the original poster's reasoning, particularly regarding the signs of the velocities and the assumptions made about direction.
  • Others suggest clarifying the notation used in the equations to avoid confusion, indicating that the use of different variables may complicate the understanding of the problem.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's confusion, providing feedback on the errors identified in their reasoning. There is a focus on clarifying the relationship between the velocities and the implications of direction, but no consensus has been reached on a complete solution.

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There are indications of difficulty in interpreting the visual aids provided by the original poster, which may be affecting the clarity of the discussion. Additionally, the original poster expresses concern about the validity of their approach and seeks further guidance without receiving a step-by-step solution.

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Homework Statement
proof that velocity of image by a plane mirror is negative of object
Relevant Equations
V of image =-(v of object)
We were studying reflection due to plane mirrors and our sir derived the relation between velocity of image and velocity of object in case of a plane mirror. He took the following case as bare for deriving the formula.
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Following is the detailed working
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Now I was wondering if I could derive it for a different case where the object is moving in opposite direction. But I'm not getting the same result. Look here please
IMG-20231018-WA0013.jpg

Why is it false this case . Or have I done something wrong. Please tell me where I'm wrong and the mathematical concept that I have to get right so that I don't repeat any of the mistakes again. Im sorry if the doubt was a bit to silly
 
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Your error is the same as in the first image you posted. That image shows ##V_0## on either side of the mirror, but one of them should be negative as the two are pointing in opposite directions.

Also, your work is very difficult to read, as the image appears rotated. At least the image is legible if I rotate my laptop's screen, which is more than I can say for some images that members post. In your work you wrote that ##\frac{dx}{dt} = \frac{dy}{dt}##. This can't be true for the same reason as I gave above.
 
Mark44 said:
Your error is the same as in the first image you posted. That image shows ##V_0## on either side of the mirror, but one of them should be negative as the two are pointing in opposite directions.

Also, your work is very difficult to read, as the image appears rotated. At least the image is legible if I rotate my laptop's screen, which is more than I can say for some images that members post. In your work you wrote that ##\frac{dx}{dt} = \frac{dy}{dt}##. This can't be true for the same reason as I gave above.
Sorry about the images sir, . Back to the problem.
In the first image ,v of image was completely unknown , so I assumed it to be in same direction and found the actual velocity. But doing this way doesn't help me in the second case.Can u please do the steps for the second case
 
Is this right
IMG-20231018-WA0017.jpg
IMG-20231018-WA0015.jpg
 
Rhdjfgjgj said:
In the first image ,v of image was completely unknown
In that image, there's no v. There are ##V_0## and ##V_I##.

Rhdjfgjgj said:
so I assumed it to be in same direction and found the actual velocity.
In the same direction as what?

Rhdjfgjgj said:
But doing this way doesn't help me in the second case.

Rhdjfgjgj said:
Can u please do the steps for the second case
No, we are not going to do the steps for you. In the second case, if the object is moving away from the mirror (at the same speed it was moving toward the mirror), its velocity will be the negative of what it was. That is ##V_{new} = -V_0##.
 

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