Proove there is an x s.t. x^3+x=6

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The discussion revolves around proving the existence of a real number \( x \) such that \( x^3 + x = 6 \). The problem is situated within the context of real analysis and involves concepts such as continuity and the Intermediate Value Theorem.

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  • Participants explore various methods to approach the proof, including defining a bounded set and considering the Intermediate Value Theorem. Some question the necessity of proving continuity, while others suggest checking specific values to narrow down the interval where a solution may exist.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering different perspectives on how to approach the proof. Some guidance regarding the use of the Intermediate Value Theorem has been provided, and there is an ongoing exploration of the implications of checking specific values of \( x \) in relation to the equation.

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Participants note the importance of continuity for applying the Intermediate Value Theorem and discuss the nature of the roots of the cubic equation, including the discriminant's role in determining the number of real roots.

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Homework Statement



Show that there is an x∈R such that x^3+x=6.

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I'm not exactly sure where to get started with this proof. I think I would need to define a set S={x∈R: x>0 and x^3+x≤6}. Assume S is bounded, and then find lub(S)...?
 
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I think with some work, your approach will definitely yield a correct proof; however, are you familiar with the Intermediate Value Theorem?
 
There are 3 solutions, if you prove one is complex then one must be real?
 
How exactly would I use the Intermediate Value Theorem?
 
Would I need to first prove that it is continuous then?
 
jrsweet said:
How exactly would I use the Intermediate Value Theorem?

jrsweet said:
Would I need to first prove that it is continuous then?

All polynomial functions are continuous over all of R.

The Intermediate Value Theorem is used frequently to establish that a solution to an equation exists (but oftern is no help in finding that solution, except by numeric approximation methods).

As an example: Show there is a solution to the equation cos(x) = x.

This is equivalent to showing that cos(x) - x = 0 is solvable.

Since f(x) = cos(x) - x is a continuous function and f(0) = 1 > 0 and f(pi/2) = -pi/2 < 0 there must exist some value c between 0 and pi/2 where f(c) = 0 (by the Intermediate Value Theorem), hence there is a solution to cos(x) = x.

Your problem can be solved similarly.

--Elucidus
 
And why don't you simply solve x3+x=6 and show that there are real values for x.

[tex]x^3+x-6=0[/tex]

Start by checking if [itex]\pm 1, \pm 2, \pm 3, \pm 6[/itex] are solutions of the cubic equation.
 
njama said:
And why don't you simply solve x3+x=6 and show that there are real values for x.

[tex]x^3+x-6=0[/tex]

Start by checking if [itex]\pm 1, \pm 2, \pm 3, \pm 6[/itex] are solutions of the cubic equation.
Well, unless there is an integer root, that won't "solve" the equation! But that is a good way to start. In fact, it is exactly what jgens suggested. If x= 0 [itex]x^3+ x= 0+ 0= 0< 6[/itex]. If x= 2, [itex]x^3+ x= 8+ 2= 10> 6[/itex]. What does that tell you?
 
HallsofIvy said:
Well, unless there is an integer root, that won't "solve" the equation! But that is a good way to start. In fact, it is exactly what jgens suggested. If x= 0 [itex]x^3+ x= 0+ 0= 0< 6[/itex]. If x= 2, [itex]x^3+ x= 8+ 2= 10> 6[/itex]. What does that tell you?

It tells me that the solution is between 0 and 2, i.e [itex]x\in (0,2)[/itex].

Infact if you choose x=1, [itex]1^3+1=1+1=2<6[/itex], so [itex]x \in (1,2)[/itex]

If you go by checking for x=1.5 , [itex]1.5^3+1.5=4.875<6[/itex] you will come up with the solution. Now [itex]x \in (1.5 , 2)[/itex] and so on...

Edit: In addition, I came up with better solution.

Check the sign of the discriminant of the cubic equation:

[tex]D=\sqrt{(\frac{q}{2})^2+(\frac{p}{3})^3}[/tex]

The general cubic equation is:

[tex]x^3+px+q[/tex]

Just extract p and q from your equation.

1)If D>0 then there are 1 real and two conjugate complex roots.

2)If D=0 there is one prime and two equal real roots.

3)If D<0 there are 3 real and different roots.
 
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