Proper Hand Position for Right Hand Rule in Wire Current and Magnetic Field

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The discussion revolves around the application of the right hand rule in determining the orientation of the magnetic field generated by a current-carrying wire. Participants are exploring how to properly position their hands and fingers to visualize the magnetic field direction relative to the current flow.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the extent to which fingers should be curled when applying the right hand rule. There are discussions about whether the amount of curl affects the outcome and how it relates to the orientation of the magnetic field.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with some participants providing insights into the mechanics of the right hand rule and its implications for understanding magnetic fields. There is a recognition that the specific degree of finger curl may not impact the overall understanding of the magnetic field's orientation.

Contextual Notes

One participant mentions a specific problem involving a wire and its magnetic field at a given point, indicating that the context of homework constraints is influencing the discussion.

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for the right hand rule for a wire with a current and magnetic field. Your thumb points in the direction of the current and you wrap your fingers around the wire. Do your fingers form a fist or how much do you curl it? Right now, I'm curling my fingers where the tips of my fingers TOUCH my palm and that gets me the right answers. Is that how it's down?
 
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The point of grabbing the wire with your right-hand is to indicate
the sense of the magnetic field...

Specifically, a given point in space,
the magnetic field due to a long straight wire is
pointing tangent to a circle through your point and centered at the wire.
Which way along the circle (clockwise or counterclockwise)?
The way your right hand grabs the wire (with thumb along the positive current) indicates which way.
(It doesn't matter how much you curl it... The point is that your right hand can only curl in one direction.)
 
robphy said:
The point of grabbing the wire with your right-hand is to indicate
the sense of the magnetic field...

Specifically, a given point in space,
the magnetic field due to a long straight wire is
pointing tangent to a circle through your point and centered at the wire.
Which way along the circle (clockwise or counterclockwise)?
The way your right hand grabs the wire (with thumb along the positive current) indicates which way.
(It doesn't matter how much you curl it... The point is that your right hand can only curl in one direction.)

yeah but how much do you curl your finger? All the way?
 
pyroknife said:
yeah but how much do you curl your finger? All the way?

It doesn't matter. Curl them all the way if you want; don't curl them at all if you prefer. The answer is still the same: you get the ORIENTATION of the magnetic field, not necessarily the detailed direction.

RGV
 
a problem that I had to do dealt with a wire. The problem was that a wire is located at y=6m that is 2m long and the current is flowing towards the +x direction. It wanted to know whether the magnetic field was +/- at x=0. I had to curl my hand all the way to get that it was positive.
 

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