Properties of the Fourier transform

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the properties of the Fourier transform, specifically the relationship between the Fourier transforms of two functions, denoted as $$\hat{f}_1(\vec{k})$$ and $$\hat{f}_2(\vec{k})$$. The participants debate the validity of the equation $$\hat{f}_1(\vec{k}) \hat{f}_2(\vec{k}) = \mathscr{F}\left[\hat{f}_1(\vec{k}) f_2(\vec{x}) \right]$$, highlighting that it is only true point-wise in $$\vec{k}$$ space and may be misleading. The Fourier Convolution Theorem is referenced, emphasizing that the equation does not represent convolution since only $$\hat{f}_2$$ is transformed. The discussion concludes that while the identity can be useful in specific contexts, it is not universally applicable.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Fourier transforms and their notation
  • Familiarity with the Fourier Convolution Theorem
  • Knowledge of integral calculus and properties of integrals
  • Basic concepts of function spaces and pointwise convergence
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the Fourier Convolution Theorem in detail
  • Explore the implications of pointwise convergence in Fourier analysis
  • Learn about the properties and applications of the Dirac delta function
  • Investigate the relationship between Fourier transforms and convolution operators
USEFUL FOR

Mathematicians, physicists, and engineers involved in signal processing, as well as students studying Fourier analysis and its applications in various fields.

redtree
Messages
335
Reaction score
15
TL;DR
Properties of the Fourier transform of two functions
I was wondering if the following is true and if not, why?

$$
\begin{split}
\hat{f}_1(\vec{k}) \hat{f}_2(\vec{k}) &= \hat{f}_1(\vec{k}) \int_{\mathbb{R}^n} f_2(\vec{x}) e^{-2 \pi i \vec{k} \cdot \vec{x}} d\vec{x}
\\
&= \int_{\mathbb{R}^n} \hat{f}_1(\vec{k}) f_2(\vec{x}) e^{-2 \pi i \vec{k} \cdot \vec{x}} d\vec{x}
\\
&= \mathscr{F}\left[\hat{f}_1(\vec{k}) f_2(\vec{x}) \right]
\end{split}
$$
where
$$
\mathscr{F} \left[ f_n(\vec{x}) \right] = \hat{f}_n(\vec{k})
$$
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Physics news on Phys.org
Your LaTex isn't rendering.
 
jbergman said:
Your LaTex isn't rendering.
Fixed!
 
It looks like an identity. Am I missing something?
 
It’s not the convolution theorem in that only $$\hat{f}_2$$ is Fourier transformed.

I was told by that $$\hat{f}_1$$ cannot be moved into the integral $$\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} dx$$ and so the equation is not accurate. I disagreed and so posted the question. It seems an identity to me too.
 
The Fourier series transform is a sum over all k, not the value for a single k.
 
redtree said:
TL;DR Summary: Properties of the Fourier transform of two functions

I was wondering if the following is true and if not, why?

$$
\begin{split}
\hat{f}_1(\vec{k}) \hat{f}_2(\vec{k}) &= \hat{f}_1(\vec{k}) \int_{\mathbb{R}^n} f_2(\vec{x}) e^{-2 \pi i \vec{k} \cdot \vec{x}} d\vec{x}
\\
&= \int_{\mathbb{R}^n} \hat{f}_1(\vec{k}) f_2(\vec{x}) e^{-2 \pi i \vec{k} \cdot \vec{x}} d\vec{x}
\\
&= \mathscr{F}\left[\hat{f}_1(\vec{k}) f_2(\vec{x}) \right]
\end{split}
$$
where
$$
\mathscr{F} \left[ f_n(\vec{x}) \right] = \hat{f}_n(\vec{k})
$$
From a certain perspective it's only true point-wise in "##\vec k##" space, so it might be misleading. I can't think of any setting off the top of my head where that equation (i.e. ##\mathscr{F}\left[\hat f_1(\vec k) f_2(\vec x)\right] = \hat f_1(\vec k)\hat f_2(\vec k)##) specifically would be useful. The identity ##\mathscr{F}\left[ f\right](\vec k) \equiv \hat f(\vec k)## can be helpful, however, when introducing Fourier analysis to the uninitiated, or improving the flow of a paper/derivation where Fourier analysis is used extensively and intermittently. In general, ##\hat f(\vec k) \hat g(\vec k) = \mathscr{F}\left[f * g\right](\vec k)##, where ##*## is the convolution operator (i.e. ##f * g(x) \equiv \int_y f(y) g(x - y)##, which can be checked with the heuristic "identity" ##\int \frac{dk}{2\pi}e^{ik\cdot x} = \delta(x)##.)
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: redtree

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
6K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
4K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
1K
  • · Replies 33 ·
2
Replies
33
Views
6K