Properties of the Fourier transform

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The discussion revolves around the properties of the Fourier transform, specifically examining a proposed identity involving the Fourier transforms of two functions. Participants explore the validity of this identity and its implications within the context of Fourier analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the validity of an identity involving the Fourier transforms, suggesting it may be true but seeking clarification.
  • Another participant references the Fourier Convolution Theorem, implying a connection to the discussion but does not elaborate on its relevance.
  • A different participant argues that the proposed identity is not the convolution theorem since only one function's Fourier transform is considered.
  • Concerns are raised about the movement of $$\hat{f}_1$$ into the integral, with one participant asserting that it cannot be done, while another disagrees and supports the identity's validity.
  • One participant notes that the Fourier series transform involves a sum over all $$k$$ values, contrasting with the pointwise nature of the proposed identity.
  • A later reply suggests that the identity may only hold pointwise in $$\vec{k}$$ space, indicating potential limitations in its application.
  • Another participant discusses the general identity involving the convolution operator, providing context for its utility in Fourier analysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of the proposed identity, with some supporting it and others challenging its accuracy. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the functions involved and the conditions under which the proposed identity may hold true. The discussion highlights the need for careful consideration of definitions and contexts in Fourier analysis.

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Properties of the Fourier transform of two functions
I was wondering if the following is true and if not, why?

$$
\begin{split}
\hat{f}_1(\vec{k}) \hat{f}_2(\vec{k}) &= \hat{f}_1(\vec{k}) \int_{\mathbb{R}^n} f_2(\vec{x}) e^{-2 \pi i \vec{k} \cdot \vec{x}} d\vec{x}
\\
&= \int_{\mathbb{R}^n} \hat{f}_1(\vec{k}) f_2(\vec{x}) e^{-2 \pi i \vec{k} \cdot \vec{x}} d\vec{x}
\\
&= \mathscr{F}\left[\hat{f}_1(\vec{k}) f_2(\vec{x}) \right]
\end{split}
$$
where
$$
\mathscr{F} \left[ f_n(\vec{x}) \right] = \hat{f}_n(\vec{k})
$$
 
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It looks like an identity. Am I missing something?
 
It’s not the convolution theorem in that only $$\hat{f}_2$$ is Fourier transformed.

I was told by that $$\hat{f}_1$$ cannot be moved into the integral $$\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} dx$$ and so the equation is not accurate. I disagreed and so posted the question. It seems an identity to me too.
 
The Fourier series transform is a sum over all k, not the value for a single k.
 
redtree said:
TL;DR Summary: Properties of the Fourier transform of two functions

I was wondering if the following is true and if not, why?

$$
\begin{split}
\hat{f}_1(\vec{k}) \hat{f}_2(\vec{k}) &= \hat{f}_1(\vec{k}) \int_{\mathbb{R}^n} f_2(\vec{x}) e^{-2 \pi i \vec{k} \cdot \vec{x}} d\vec{x}
\\
&= \int_{\mathbb{R}^n} \hat{f}_1(\vec{k}) f_2(\vec{x}) e^{-2 \pi i \vec{k} \cdot \vec{x}} d\vec{x}
\\
&= \mathscr{F}\left[\hat{f}_1(\vec{k}) f_2(\vec{x}) \right]
\end{split}
$$
where
$$
\mathscr{F} \left[ f_n(\vec{x}) \right] = \hat{f}_n(\vec{k})
$$
From a certain perspective it's only true point-wise in "##\vec k##" space, so it might be misleading. I can't think of any setting off the top of my head where that equation (i.e. ##\mathscr{F}\left[\hat f_1(\vec k) f_2(\vec x)\right] = \hat f_1(\vec k)\hat f_2(\vec k)##) specifically would be useful. The identity ##\mathscr{F}\left[ f\right](\vec k) \equiv \hat f(\vec k)## can be helpful, however, when introducing Fourier analysis to the uninitiated, or improving the flow of a paper/derivation where Fourier analysis is used extensively and intermittently. In general, ##\hat f(\vec k) \hat g(\vec k) = \mathscr{F}\left[f * g\right](\vec k)##, where ##*## is the convolution operator (i.e. ##f * g(x) \equiv \int_y f(y) g(x - y)##, which can be checked with the heuristic "identity" ##\int \frac{dk}{2\pi}e^{ik\cdot x} = \delta(x)##.)
 
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